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Klaus

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So, two lads came forward for the re trial and described a similar scenario that she was involved in previously? The lass clearly had a promiscuous history like despite only being 19 at the time.

 

Fascinating, but surely this is irrelevant where consent is concerned in this particular case? It's interesting how certain times past history is allowed as evidence, and other times it's not.

 

Sorry, I've a hazy memory of reading up on this case ages back. So if she didn't press charges, how on earth did the police get called and involved initially? I know she was in the hotel room with one of his mates, and he went and joined or something?

Yeah he joined in. She woke up with no memories in her own p*ss iirc. Think her mates advised her to speak to the coppers, they found out Evans paid for the room and pursued the case from there. Something like that.

 

I wonder if she'd have called the cops if she'd not been persuaded by her friends, especially if she's done these kinds of things before? Again, none of this excuses the notion of a lack of consent, which is a crime and inexcusable. But in this scenario, it seems like she didn't recall consenting, if I'm reading it correctly? If so, this seems like a gargantuan waste of public resources and time for everyone involved. Especially with the not-guilty verdict, which pretty much calls the whole thing a sham. What a clusterfuck for everyone involved, especially the girl who, I'm sure, didn't want her life turned upside down by either the (alleged) rape or the ensuing court dramas.

That's exactly it, she remembered literally nothing at all about the evening which the prosecution and judge took to mean she couldn't consent and that equalled rape.

 

What they said briefly on the radio, was that the two situations were too similar to ignore. Rarely would the accusers history have any bearing on the trial, but this was an exception.

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At the heart of the successful appeal were fresh statements from two young men who described their sexual relations with the complainant, who was referred to in the crucial appeal court judgment as X, at around the time of the alleged rape in May 2011.

 

One, Y, actually came forward the day after Evans was found guilty in April 2012 to say she had had sex with him following the incident. He thought it “inconsistent” that she had slept with him a fortnight after she was attacked and – at a time when social media was alive with abuse about her – he came to the conclusion she was motivated by greed when she went to the police.

 

A man called Jack Higgins – who along with Evans’ younger brother Ryan voyeuristically peered in through the hotel window at the footballer and X – asked him to speak to Evans’ defence. He was briefly interviewed but his evidence was not used at that time.

 

In September 2015, the witness was re-interviewed by a private detective who was part of the new beefed-up Evans legal team. At this point he said X directed the sex and used the phrase: “Fuck me harder.” It was the first time he claimed she had used these words.

 

The explicit phrase is important because it chimes with what Evans claimed had happened in his encounter with X. He continues to insist she used exactly the same language.

 

A second man, Z, who was in a sexual relationship with X at the time of the alleged rape, had also made a rather bland statement back in September 2011.

 

In December 2015, he gave a much more detailed account to a member of Evans’ new legal team in which he said X had used the phrase “Go harder” with him.

 

Kieran Vaughan QC, for Evans, argued at the appeal court in the spring that there were “striking” similarities in the accounts of the two witnesses and that of Evans and they might support a defence of actual consent.

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DJ_NUFC

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Wait, does that say two blokes were watching through the window?

 

aye, their mates were carrying on trying to film on their phones

 

whole thing was tawdry as fuck like :lol:

 

That is an added disgusting twist this trial really did not need, but adds much needed levity :lol:

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Wait, does that say two blokes were watching through the window?

 

aye, their mates were carrying on trying to film on their phones

 

whole thing was tawdry as f*** like :lol:

 

One of the 'mates' was Evans' younger brother

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Ched closed the curtains I think. I always thought it was just stupid drunken sex, she just panicked when she couldn't find her phone in the morning iirc and then the police lost their shit and it escalated from there. Anyway, the guy's a twat for fucking a lass behind his girlfriend's back, but the police really shouldn't be ruining people's lives like this.

 

Anecdotally, wor lass managed to drop some planks of wood on herself and bust her nose (like 20 yrs ago) so off I took her to A&E and the doc was determined that I dunnit and really tried to get her to report me to the poliss. Worrying how people jump to conclusions. There were a few civvies who jumped that way as well, it wasn't nice. :lol: I was "Have you ever met me, man?"

 

Just to back up what I've said before about me turning into a robot in emergencies, it was a Saturday and I was watching the football, but when I heard the bang and the wailing from upstairs I took a second to press the record button before racing to the scene. :lol: Makes me sound like a selfish twat. Fair enough.

 

Interestingly, and this just reinforces the robot/twat thing, she was knackered when we got back with the trauma etc. and nodded off in the chair, then woke up screaming as the incident ran through her head. Dealt with that and she was fine afterwards. I felt nothing because action was required. :dontknow:

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This is part of what pisses me off about the whole thing. Lasses will be scared to come forward, in case they will get this sort of reaction.

 

'And here are some collected tweets from various members of the public, male and female, following news that Evans had been found not guilty: “That b***h who ruined Ched Evans’ career deserves to die. He is my new hero and I hate feminists”, “Glad Ched Evans is doing well, f**k you feminists”, “Shows how manipulative lasses can be if they want to be, throwing the rape card about and ruined Ched Evans’ career, justice is done slag”, “Ched Evans found not guilty, after all this time. The girl should go to prison, lying sh*t c**t slag”, “Jail the lying slag”, “Hope Ched Evans sues her for every penny. F**king slag”, “Ched Evans what a man #shesaidyes”, “Spiteful little cow #Ched”, “Shows how easily girls can lie about this stuff and ruin someone’s life”, “Ched Evans is innocent, lad’s reputation and career in tatters coz of some little slag”, “Get the dirty little lying slag in jug ASAP”, “Let’s hope the girl has her life ruined like he has. The c**t”, “Lock the lying c**t away and throw away the key”.'

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This is part of what pisses me off about the whole thing. Lasses will be scared to come forward, in case they will get this sort of reaction.

 

'And here are some collected tweets from various members of the public, male and female, following news that Evans had been found not guilty: “That b***h who ruined Ched Evans’ career deserves to die. He is my new hero and I hate feminists”, “Glad Ched Evans is doing well, f**k you feminists”, “Shows how manipulative lasses can be if they want to be, throwing the rape card about and ruined Ched Evans’ career, justice is done slag”, “Ched Evans found not guilty, after all this time. The girl should go to prison, lying sh*t c**t slag”, “Jail the lying slag”, “Hope Ched Evans sues her for every penny. F**king slag”, “Ched Evans what a man #shesaidyes”, “Spiteful little cow #Ched”, “Shows how easily girls can lie about this stuff and ruin someone’s life”, “Ched Evans is innocent, lad’s reputation and career in tatters coz of some little slag”, “Get the dirty little lying slag in jug ASAP”, “Let’s hope the girl has her life ruined like he has. The c**t”, “Lock the lying c**t away and throw away the key”.'

 

That is awful, like. She didn't press charges or lie afaik, she just said she couldn't remember innit?

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This article has no details, context or nuance. Or depth. Regardless of your take on what has transpired, the left continues to use these types of events to expound its narratives that make up the pyramid of victimhood it worships.

 

And I'm a leftie.

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DJ_NUFC

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This is part of what pisses me off about the whole thing. Lasses will be scared to come forward, in case they will get this sort of reaction.

 

'And here are some collected tweets from various members of the public, male and female, following news that Evans had been found not guilty: “That b***h who ruined Ched Evans’ career deserves to die. He is my new hero and I hate feminists”, “Glad Ched Evans is doing well, f**k you feminists”, “Shows how manipulative lasses can be if they want to be, throwing the rape card about and ruined Ched Evans’ career, justice is done slag”, “Ched Evans found not guilty, after all this time. The girl should go to prison, lying sh*t c**t slag”, “Jail the lying slag”, “Hope Ched Evans sues her for every penny. F**king slag”, “Ched Evans what a man #shesaidyes”, “Spiteful little cow #Ched”, “Shows how easily girls can lie about this stuff and ruin someone’s life”, “Ched Evans is innocent, lad’s reputation and career in tatters coz of some little slag”, “Get the dirty little lying slag in jug ASAP”, “Let’s hope the girl has her life ruined like he has. The c**t”, “Lock the lying c**t away and throw away the key”.'

 

That is awful, like. She didn't press charges or lie afaik, she just said she couldn't remember innit?

 

Yup. Twitter seems to attract a section of the pubic that needs sectioning. Remember the Adam Johnson tweets? f***.

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This article has no details, context or nuance. Or depth. Regardless of your take on what has transpired, the left continues to use these types of events to expound its narratives that make up the pyramid of victimhood it worships.

 

And I'm a leftie.

 

:thup:

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This article has no details, context or nuance. Or depth. Regardless of your take on what has transpired, the left continues to use these types of events to expound its narratives that make up the pyramid of victimhood it worships.

 

And I'm a leftie.

Aye, it's why I'm starting to find the left canny vile like. On social issues aye, I'm left wing, but I hate being thrown in with these absolute fannies.
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Leftish protests are always the most cringe worthy events like.  They scream about tolerance to the point of intolerance. 

 

(Obligatory "I'm a fairly serious lefty" disclaimer)

 

It's funny, but elements of the left can almost be described as fascist with the whole "Think like us or else". Deviation from some left-wing beliefs can bring about a flash mob of real and cyber-activists calling for all sorts of retribution.

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This article has no details, context or nuance. Or depth. Regardless of your take on what has transpired, the left continues to use these types of events to expound its narratives that make up the pyramid of victimhood it worships.

 

And I'm a leftie.

 

Evans admitted that he lied in order to get a key for the hotel room that the woman was in

 

Stopped reading there. Of what consequence is that to the whole thing? He committed hotel-key-fraud, clearly he must be a wrong un?!?

 

I have every sympathy with the lass for what she's been through the last few years, but that is just scraping the barrel. Didn't bother with the rest of the article.

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Read a lot of "he might not of raped her but he still cheated" type of comments. Some here, mostly twitter. In terms of morality, illegality and impact on your career the two are a million miles apart or should be. And more worrying the abuse his lass has got for sticking by him.

 

I personally think cheating is vile. BUT, I've got mates who have cheated and mates who have been cheated on and stuck with their partners. I don't think they should be made to go to prison or be stopped from being employed in their career.

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Of course you shouldn't have to go to prison for cheating :lol: if people are suggesting that, then they are a bit dim.

 

But it seems like a bit more than just cheating. The whole thing was sordid as fuck and makes for uneasy reading. I find it strange that some good mates of mine are labelling the girl a slag, saying she should be made to stand trial, buzzing for Ched etc etc.

 

The whole thing is a mess and I don't think either party comes out of it well. But I just don't understand the logic in lauding Evans as some sort of hero?

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