The College Dropout Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I think too much is being made of the referee. I like the fact VAR is leaning heavily on the referee's in game decision. The foul on Saka was definitely a foul but it happens such a long time before the goal that i'm not overly upset over it. There was a lot of football to play and defending to do. The biggest issue was being overly concerned with Mbappe, midfielders being too deep and allowing Tchou the free shot. The Kane foul, was a foul but not a penalty. The ref missed it, play on - it wasn't a penalty. The fact he didn't blow for the penalty was annoying but VAR corrected it. Biggest issues was over focus on Mbappe and Southgate not making substitutions based on what was happening on the field and game state. He had Walker babysitting Mbappe for 100 minutes. Shaw ended up being the best crosser of the ball when we were chasing and a right-side of Walker and Sterling. We needed Trippier/Trent and to leave Saka on until his legs went. Rashford needed to come on earlier. And we shouldn't have ended the game with Rice & Bellingham. Silly penalty aside - we didn't create any good opportunities at 2-1 down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LiquidAK Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, joeyt said: What the fuck, there's 2 other "sightings" in the comments under that going back to 2014. Some kind of fan-for-hire?? So weird Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: What the fuck, there's 2 other "sightings" in the comments under that going back to 2014. Some kind of fan-for-hire?? So weird Wonder if he’s a setup for the cameras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) Reminds me of that movie with Ed Helms called The Clapper or something like that. He gets hired to be in crowds clapping. Edited December 13, 2022 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Preparing myself to cry with either happiness or sadness in front of my mates in some redneck bar in the Australian outback at 4am on Sunday night watching the final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 6 hours ago, tgarve said: Wonder if he’s a setup for the cameras Goes to every tournament and when England get knocked out he just joins in with whatever fans he thinks are having the most fun. Had a look on his Instagram and it looks like he has a blast wherever he goes to be fair to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 13/12/2022 at 05:53, astraguy said: Sounds rather less impressive when you realise that: The majority of WCs before Ronaldo only had 16 teams qualify; and from 82-94 only 24 did, reducing Portugal's chances All Euros before Ronaldo only had 8 teams qualify - actually, before 80 it was only 4. Which made it very difficult to qualify. And one of the Euros where they qualified with Ronaldo, they qualified as hosts. So unless he put together Portugal's bid package, it was only 4 Euros. Portugal has always been a major football country - no-one looks at Holland's lack of WC wins and writes them off as non-entities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 18 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I think too much is being made of the referee. I like the fact VAR is leaning heavily on the referee's in game decision. The foul on Saka was definitely a foul but it happens such a long time before the goal that i'm not overly upset over it. There was a lot of football to play and defending to do. The biggest issue was being overly concerned with Mbappe, midfielders being too deep and allowing Tchou the free shot. The Kane foul, was a foul but not a penalty. The ref missed it, play on - it wasn't a penalty. The fact he didn't blow for the penalty was annoying but VAR corrected it. Biggest issues was over focus on Mbappe and Southgate not making substitutions based on what was happening on the field and game state. He had Walker babysitting Mbappe for 100 minutes. Shaw ended up being the best crosser of the ball when we were chasing and a right-side of Walker and Sterling. We needed Trippier/Trent and to leave Saka on until his legs went. Rashford needed to come on earlier. And we shouldn't have ended the game with Rice & Bellingham. Silly penalty aside - we didn't create any good opportunities at 2-1 down. Yep, this all feels like classic English scapegoating to me re the referee. We created very little from open play despite France really not being on their game. The Kane foul wasn't a pen, so couldn't be brought back. It didn't especially feel like a football robbery to me - England huffed and puffed and created nowt, and fell asleep for the two French goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Team of the tournament IMO: Bono Hakimi - Varane - Gvardiol - Acuna Bellingham - Amrabat - Ounahi Griezmann Messi - Mbappe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Racking my brains thinking someone must have been better than Acuna, but no one immediately comes to mind. Would have said Hernandez but he's been rash in the box and should have given away another pen last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Racking my brains thinking someone must have been better than Acuna, but no one immediately comes to mind. Would have said Hernandez but he's been rash in the box and should have given away another pen last night. Slim pickings for most positions tbh, normally have to put a bit of thought into it but Bellingham v Enzo was the only one where someone didn't immediately spring to mind. Shaw would be a pretty decent shout for LB, or maybe Blind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 I'd go something like... Livakovic Hakimi Saiss Gvardiol Acuna Amrabat Tchouameni Enzo Greizmann Mbappe Messi Honourable mentions to Dumfries, Ounahi, Bellingham and Alvarez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Feel like Mac Allister should probably get in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 The Messi doc on iPlayer is so good. Man I hope this ends with him lifting the cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Is Roy Keane just Larry David ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Larry David's funny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 On 15/12/2022 at 19:11, LiquidAK said: The Messi doc on iPlayer is so good. Man I hope this ends with him lifting the cup Just watched it myself and it's really good but I'm always left wanting more. Can't wait until there's a Last Dance length documentary on just him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I think it’ll be tough to make a long series documentary about Messi as his character for the vast majority of his career has been shy and withdrawn. I can’t imagine him wanting to take part in lots of interviews or if he did, actually disclosing that much. Would happily just watch a documentary that goes through season-by-season his best moments and other people commentating on how he did incredible things, especially his opponents who had to defend against him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I'd prefer that really. His life story is worth knowing but I've heard Balague and Graham Hunter tell the same story and speak for him enough. Not enough is made of his form immediately after 2014 World Cup imo and it's probably my favourite version of Messi, so I'd like to see that in a bit more depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I'd prefer that really. His life story is worth knowing but I've heard Balague and Graham Hunter tell the same story and speak for him enough. Not enough is made of his form immediately after 2014 World Cup imo and it's probably my favourite version of Messi, so I'd like to see that in a bit more depth. That's what I enjoyed about the doc tbh. Just laying it all out there in terms of how each tournament went and how he reacted, all building to that Copa America and now this WC. Even without many interviews with him it really helped build that picture of the story of his career. Almost feels too perfect for it to end on him winning the biggest thing of all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Roll on North America 2026! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Great tournament of football. Fuck Qatar, fuck FIFA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Best World Cup I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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