Wullie Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I thought they'd turn up tonight like, I have to say. Wrote the end of season performances off as understandable but that was poorer than I expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Astroblack said: Are these Italian players that good? Our players are better man to man. There can't be many out of that lot tonight who'd get into our squad never mind starting 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 England are terrible. What's going on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Can’t believe there are people who rate Southgate as a manager, my biggest fear for us is that he ends up getting our job one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jaqen said: There can't be many out of that lot tonight who'd get into our squad never mind starting 11. Donnarumma, Barella and one or two of the CBs imo. Edit. Didn't notice 'squad' but those would be starting. Edited September 23, 2022 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Wullie said: Even for Chelsea though, Mount's quite a functional player, not very flashy, easy to see why he'd look ordinary in a team not playing well. Foden's a beautiful player but he was struggling to do even the simple stuff tonight. He's a system player, and he knows the England one from doing it at Chelsea, but he's nowhere near the same player. At Chelsea he scores or assists in 2 out of every 3 matches, but at a base level he's much more involved and has a bit of flair about him as well. For England all of his work seems functional and mainly off the ball. Agree about Foden as well like. Sterling seems much deeper now as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: On what planet do you not give a manager who gets us to a semi and then a final though? That's literally the deep end On paper that's true but, and I don't care for the English national team so I can't say, a closer look can still warrant this. Gullit/Dalglish got us to cup finals but it was wholly appropriate they were sacked. At international level the same for Sacchi (WC final loss) and Bilardo (one WC final one WC win). Arguably even Ranieri at Leicester. Edited September 23, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, David Edgar said: He got proper lucky with the teams we had to face. The second we played a decent side, we were shite. Gareth LUCKYBOYgate. Yep. England clean lost three games out of seven at the 2018 World Cup, beaten by every good side they played. Looks a lot more spectacular than it was. Compared to say Italia 90 when the only clean loss was the play-off and played much tougher opponents. Same results but really not the same things. No qualms about the Euros though - never watched a single tbh Edited September 23, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Can’t believe there are people who rate Southgate as a manager, my biggest fear for us is that he ends up getting our job one day. His record speaks for itself. If he's run his race now, then fair enough, but his choices prior to now have been vindicated at every turn. The biggest one being turning the national team into a club team that plays at international tournaments. No one did that before and it got us to a semi and a final; the latter off which hadn't happened in over half a century. He's no PFM. Fair enough if you don't rate him but to not understand why some do is just strange. He's been perfect for England, even if he's not the greatest in-game tactician. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Hound. Him. Out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Italy could play a team of Serie B players and still wouldn't lose to England. Their record, even in friendlies, is awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Harry Maguire starts for Eng-er-land He's England's all-time goal scoring defender and despite being shit at Man United, is still playing well for England. Southgate would be mad to drop him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Relegated with a game to go, and no goals scored aside from penalties is pretty atrocious mind. Not looking good ahead of the WC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I've got some good news and some bad news. The good news is: The bad news is we've been relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 You're all still thinking about the bad news aren't ya? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Southgate/Cooper job swap in January I reckon. Southgate really seems like a Forest manager. He does, don’t ask, I don’t know why ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Abysmal Nations League performance, but Southgate has earned a crack at this World Cup. It will most likely be his last tournament regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Pata said: Donnarumma, Barella and one or two of the CBs imo. Edit. Didn't notice 'squad' but those would be starting. Aye, that's probably fair. Chisea and Verratti too when fit. Not sure about Donnarumma though, think he's been pretty poor since he left Milan and always got a massive error in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 YOU'RE GOING DOWN WITH THE MACKEMS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 he'll turn it around, semi's at the minimum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Quote England are one of only two nations yet to score a non-penalty goal in the 2022-23 Nations League... along with San Marino. Incidentally that is who England's last competitive goal from open play was against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Cos he plays well for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) playing players that are out of form. playing players who arent match fit due to lack of game time for their clubs. playing players out of position. and just being fucking negative in general. should have got rid after that abomination of a managerial performance in the euros final. Edited September 23, 2022 by huss9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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