Guest firetotheworks Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Well yeah, if your FA lives by the sword of actively courting players with no real emotional attachment to the country, you and your FA die by the sword when they drop the bombshell that they were pretending to have a real emotional attachment the whole time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I mean no one living in the UK (save for NI) is really Irish are they? It's a costume. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Well yeah, if your FA lives by the sword of actively courting players with no real emotional attachment to the country, you and your FA die by the sword when they drop the bombshell that they were pretending to have a real emotional attachment the whole time. Aye, I agree. I don't think any English born players should be put in Irish underage unless its an exceptional circumstance. Still think its a bit thick to kiss the badge and completely deny that you have any intention of changing to England when a few months later you switch allegiances to England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do, not least because of the opportunity it deprives others of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I mean no one living in the UK (save for NI) is really Irish are they? It's a costume. McGeady and McCarthy were born Scottish and picked us. In the past there were many English born people who felt Irish as the Irish tended to stick together in England with their own culture. Kevin Kilbane for example turned down England at underage level before Ireland had even contacted him about playing for Ireland as he felt Irish. Ciaran Clark was England u20 captain when he chose to play for Ireland instead It was reported at the time that the main reason Grealish chose England was because his agent told him it would be better from a monetary standpoint for him in the long term Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Yeah, it's definitely a shit move, just not that unexpected from someone that effectively switched his allegiance to Ireland in the first place. Kind of like saying it's shit that you were cheated on by someone who cheated on their ex to be with you in the first place. Like you say though, he's young and you're right, they shouldn't be in that position in the first place, but I suspect them being in that position where they'd feel guilty for switching is partly what the FAI bank on happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Thankfully, these types of shenanigans are much less prevalent than they are in other sports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I mean no one living in the UK (save for NI) is really Irish are they? It's a costume. McGeady and McCarthy were born Scottish and picked us. In the past there were many English born people who felt Irish as the Irish tended to stick together in England with their own culture. Kevin Kilbane for example turned down England at underage level before Ireland had even contacted him about playing for Ireland as he felt Irish. Ciaran Clark was England u20 captain when he chose to play for Ireland instead It was reported at the time that the main reason Grealish chose England was because his agent told him it would be better from a monetary standpoint for him in the long term With McGeady - I'm pretty sure I've read that it was nothing to do with how 'Irish' he was, and that it was to do with being able to play at different age grades in youth that he couldn't in Scotland, plus the chance to play at tournaments etc. Probably also got something to do with the cloak or irishness some Celtic fans wear as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 No real surprises. Thought Wan Bissaka might've made it mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Foster deserves to be in there imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Trippier has been shite this season. Should be Wan-Bissaka instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Tarkowski??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Foster deserves to be in there imo. He's fucked it off because he hates our troops IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I still don't know what Eric Dier is for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Likewise. Dier is a nonenity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Has Pickford been selected on form? Ridiculous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Has Pickford been selected on form? Ridiculous! You can’t just pick the 23 or whatever most in form players for every squad. Its about building a team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Tarkowski??? My thought exactly, how the fuck can that gimp get into any England team? When we played Burnley the other week he looked very ordinary.... Not that I want him anywhere near the England squad but, Lascelles looks twice the player (and he's injured).... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Sorry, I should have elaborated. What I meant to say was " how is Pickford in the squad". Cause he is crap basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I still don't know what Eric Dier is for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Sorry, I should have elaborated. What I meant to say was " how is Pickford in the squad". Cause he is crap basically. He did very well at our best tournament performance in 400 years. And the alternatives are not exactly world beaters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Yeah, against mediocre quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Which makes absolutely no difference to the fact he was, and still is, an important part of our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Oh my that squad is dire. Pretty good up front but nothing much else apart from Stones, Alli and TAA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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