morla84 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Probably won us half a dozen points, lost us plenty more by disappearing. Should be doing a lot more for £14/15m. Hard to fit in the team. Cries when it goes wrong instead of fighting. Thinks hes better than us. An expensive version of Sissoko. Get rid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Poison get rid, no interest in fighting for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Hope he stays personally. He's not the only player not to get stuck in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Takes no responsibility for the relegation, in fact quite the opposite, claims to be one of the (statistically) best midfielders in the league last year despite our relegation, obviously making out he couldn't have done any more to stop the slide. Fuck him off, we don't need that kind of poison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 My gut feeling is that his terrible attitude is simply from walking into a poisonous atmosphere after a terrible fucking season for the club before, it never corrected itself (until Rafa), I think if he sat down with the club and bought into the direction it wants to go, he could be the main man. Did PSV not have a half time presentation to him mid season with the fans thanking him for all his efforts before? That kinda stuff doesn't happen to genuine bad eggs. Could be a massive mistake selling the lad (if we don't have to) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Good points Odin. He was the star man in a team that dominated that league, had to do very minimal on the defensive side (but showed tons of commitment when I saw him play for PSV) and seemed a brilliant captain and leader there. Has all the tools, skills, and such to be up there with some of the best but he's not got an ounce of gut in him when the going gets tough for a struggling team. Personally hope he shuts the fuck up. Wouldn't mind selling him anywhere but the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I would be disappointed if we sold him, think if he stays then Rafa could get the best out of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I want him gone, his attitude stinks. Don't need characters like that in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 On 05/06/2016 at 12:02, Interpolic said: I want him gone, his attitude stinks. Don't need characters like that in the squad. Yep. Time for a much-needed culture change at the club and cunts like him and Sissoko who float through games should be fucked off from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 On 05/06/2016 at 12:12, Minhosa said: Quote I want him gone, his attitude stinks. Don't need characters like that in the squad. Yep. Time for a much-needed culture change at the club and c***s like him and Sissoko who float through games should be f***ed off from the start. On the other side of the coin, keeping these two would be the biggest signal yet that it was more the culture of the club than individuals. Come in, play well, get a move. If someone like Rafa can keep them and keep getting performances, it's the biggest signal yet that things are changing, that they can see us as their future and not a stepping stone where it doesn't matter if they give two fucks or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Personally, I would be delighted and shocked in equal measure to hear he's staying. I don't read his quote or his performances as reflecting anything toxic. He strikes me as being best suited to be a central attacking midfielder and should be consistently played as such (if it fits into Rafa's way). Plenty of top quality players would look mediocre if not selected to do the right job, and increasingly so as their self confidence diminished and frustration increased with poor results and 'coaching' . SMc's negative set-up and seeming over concern with negating the opposition cost us big style last season, we can't have been many worse away records despite magnificent away support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I have no real desire either way if he stays or goes. If he stays he will be a real asset to us in that league. I trust Rafa to have worked out what he's all about by now and if he's someone he wants to keep around the club, fortunately it's our decision not his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 On 05/06/2016 at 13:46, Altamullan said: Personally, I would be delighted and shocked in equal measure to hear he's staying. I don't read his quote or his performances as reflecting anything toxic. He strikes me as being best suited to be a central attacking midfielder and should be consistently played as such (if it fits into Rafa's way). Plenty of top quality players would look mediocre if not selected to do the right job, and increasingly so as their self confidence diminished and frustration increased with poor results and 'coaching' . SMc's negative set-up and seeming over concern with negating the opposition cost us big style last season, we can't have been many worse away records despite magnificent away support. He was tried in that position plenty of times this season, under both Benitez and McClaren. We only improved when Sissoko was put in that position and Gini was dropped/on the wing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I don't think we have the luxury of labeling him a "sell at all costs" player just because we don't like him, which is to say, if the price isn't right, he stays. He's clearly talented even if his attitude is shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 He seems to be sought after by other clubs and we are not in a position where we have to sell plus he is on a long contract. That means we can name our price and if other clubs don't like it then he stays. They can all afford it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Anonymous a lot of the time with a great eye for goal. I just don't like this lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 We know. Thanks for the weekly reminder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 On 05/06/2016 at 12:02, Interpolic said: I want him gone, his attitude stinks. Don't need characters like that in the squad. Why single Wijnaldum out alone for this though?, our whole squad were bottlers, if some of the others have redemption in them, why not Gini? For what it's worth I think he'll be sold for most of what we paid for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 On 05/06/2016 at 18:28, Odin said: Quote I want him gone, his attitude stinks. Don't need characters like that in the squad. Why single Wijnaldum out alone for this though?, our whole squad were bottlers, if some of the others have redemption in them, why not Gini? For what it's worth I think he'll be sold for most of what we paid for him. He was the worst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Quite the downgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 On 10/06/2016 at 20:14, nemtizz said: Quite the downgrade. £20m and it's a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 NUFC 360 @NUFC360 29m29 minutes ago #NUFC have placed a £30m price tag on Gini Wijnaldum, according to @DiMarzio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 On 13/06/2016 at 16:26, sempuki said: NUFC 360 @NUFC360 29m29 minutes ago #NUFC have placed a £30m price tag on Gini Wijnaldum, according to @DiMarzio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I wouldn't really surprised, paid 15m for him and he scored in double figures in his first PL season. With that said you'd have to be nuts to pay that, but that's probably the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 On 05/06/2016 at 11:25, Odin said: My gut feeling is that his terrible attitude is simply from walking into a poisonous atmosphere after a terrible f***ing season for the club before, it never corrected itself (until Rafa), I think if he sat down with the club and bought into the direction it wants to go, he could be the main man. Did PSV not have a half time presentation to him mid season with the fans thanking him for all his efforts before? That kinda stuff doesn't happen to genuine bad eggs. Could be a massive mistake selling the lad (if we don't have to) Gotta agree, it's as debatable as the Mitrovic divide in support. First season either leaves or is given another chance under better direction as you put so well above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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