David Icke - Son of God Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Essential that Doumbia hits the ground running so we actually start picking up points, but so he takes some of the pressure of Mitrovic. I don't think there's a chronic lack of ability there, I think he's just an incredibly young lad in a brand new league suffering from a lack of confidence in a team that struggles to create much at the best of times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 To be fair to Misstrovic, you cant expect somebody so young who is paid well to score goals, to score goals. Its not been done before. Great Striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 A 21yr with a lot of heart but no pace will struggle with such weight on his shoulders, especially in a side such as ours. I'd imagine even under ideal circumstances it would have taken him a season to learn what is going on in this league. He's on a hiding to nothing and once he missed a few his confidence is gone. The club absolutely refuses to pay the money needed for a top striker with pace and instinct cause they don't come cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Agreed. Which makes our signing him even more absurd. No way were we in a position where a 20 year old from the Belgian league should have been our main striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Agreed. Which makes our signing him even more absurd. No way were we in a position where a 20 year old from the Belgian league should have been our main striker. I honestly don't think he'd start in any other PL side bar maybe Villa or Norwich and even then maybe. He just isn't ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Essential that Doumbia hits the ground running so we actually start picking up points, but so he takes some of the pressure of Mitrovic. I don't think there's a chronic lack of ability there, I think he's just an incredibly young lad in a brand new league suffering from a lack of confidence in a team that struggles to create much at the best of times. This young lad shit needs to stop face it he's just not fucking good enough Berahino is younger than him but twice the striker he will ever be Walcott much younger but scored Rooney much younger but scored for fun There is so many more too. Stop trying to justify the fact that he's a 13m plank that isn't even in sholas league as a striker not even as good as big sibierski by the fact that he's only 21 Fact is this guy has scored 4 fucking goals all season 1 of them a penalty and 1 from 6 inches out He's utter utter fucking shit and I refer to my previous post regarding Defoe. If we had that fella we'd be mid table by now I'm convinced of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Berahino isn't younger than him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Bit harsh judging him against Wayne Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Bit harsh judging him against Wayne Rooney. My point was People banging on about he's shit because he is 21 there have been far far many better strikers scoring for fun at younger ages. That's what I was getting at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Bit harsh judging him against Wayne Rooney. My point was People banging on about he's s*** because he is 21 there have been far far many better strikers scoring for fun at younger ages. That's what I was getting at Aye because all players develop at the same rate. Vardy is having the year of his career at 29. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Essential that Doumbia hits the ground running so we actually start picking up points, but so he takes some of the pressure of Mitrovic. I don't think there's a chronic lack of ability there, I think he's just an incredibly young lad in a brand new league suffering from a lack of confidence in a team that struggles to create much at the best of times. This young lad s*** needs to stop face it he's just not f***ing good enough Berahino is younger than him but twice the striker he will ever be Walcott much younger but scored Rooney much younger but scored for fun There is so many more too. Stop trying to justify the fact that he's a 13m plank that isn't even in sholas league as a striker not even as good as big sibierski by the fact that he's only 21 Fact is this guy has scored 4 f***ing goals all season 1 of them a penalty and 1 from 6 inches out He's utter utter f***ing s*** and I refer to my previous post regarding Defoe. If we had that fella we'd be mid table by now I'm convinced of it "There are loads more examples but I'll use 3 of the brightest English prospects in living memory to prove my point." So much aggression towards a young lad who's been thrown in at the deep end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Needs to be booed on and off the field from now on to finish him off. Howay Wongaloaids you can do this. I genuinely don't think it'll be long before the Wongaloids are booing him a la Thauvin. Thauvin was booed for play acting by all accounts. Mitrovic has received large amounts of patience and support the odd games I've attended #spoilsport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Likely going down and Mitrovic will be one of the reasons why. His inability to finish is fucking us over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 More slaughtering for the poor lad, meanwhile Perez is God and celebrating him till 2021. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 A striker who doesn't score from open play for 10 games probably deserves to be criticised Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Agreed. Which makes our signing him even more absurd. No way were we in a position where a 20 year old from the Belgian league should have been our main striker. I honestly don't think he'd start in any other PL side bar maybe Villa or Norwich and even then maybe. He just isn't ready. Pace is a massive part of being a top level Premiership player it is wha makes this league different from evey other one. He will be sold back to the lower leagues in a year or two at a massive loss I feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 More slaughtering for the poor lad, meanwhile Perez is God and celebrating him till 2021. I agree here also as Perez is too slight at the moment and gets knocked off the ball far too easily - both have not been very good for a couple of month now and that's one of the reasons Ashley should have broke the bank in the transfwer widow. I've been saying it for months and my now favourite phrase of it's not 'rocket science' applys to the fact that is you don't score and if you concede in nearly every game you don't win many games and that is why the transfer window was a total disaster as neither key and fundemental areas were addressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Sign a winger (Thauvin) who was brought in to deliver crosses for Mitro, yet play him on the left rather then the right, where he's played most of his career and then immediatley drop him, or Mitro, or both and question why it didn't work out. Sign a winger (Townsend) who was brought in to deliver crosses for Mitro, yet play him on the left rather then the right, where he's played most of his career and then immediatley drop Mitro.... Unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 west ham was our best performance for ages and mitro was instrumental in that, albeit he didn't score, but he held the ball up and brought others into play really well that allowed us to attack as a team in the games since then mcclaren changed the entire team to defend against watford so mitro was totally isolated and last night he dropped him from the starting lineup howay man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The chances are more plentiful when he plays. He just happens to miss them. We are not losing 9 points because he missed a few chances, when those chances wouldn't have existed without him there as a focal point. Plenty of strikers have gone on worse runs before coming good for premier league teams. #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The chances are more plentiful when he plays. He just happens to miss them. We are not losing 9 points because he missed a few chances, when those chances wouldn't have existed without him there as a focal point. Plenty of strikers have gone on worse runs before coming good for premier league teams. #wait #wait? Wait till when April or May maybe when he finds his shooting boots and we are 2nd bottom with a little R next to our name in the table Or maybe #wait till October when he could hit the net against Burton Albion This fucker is no good man he's paid to score goals and he's failing miserably he's a fucking carthorse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I don't think it's time to give up on him. Missing easy chances is a concern but plenty of strikers go through these spells. Benteke was on fire last season but has missed similar sitters this season. It's a cliche but at least Mitro is getting into the positions, even when the team aren't playing well. He looks like he needs someone running beyond him, a bit like a Deeney/Ighalo partnership with strength and pace. Hopefully Doumbia can offer that, but given the "undroppable" midfielders we have, I don't think McClaren will start with them together. McClaren seems reluctant to play 2 strikers and none seem to perform up top on their own, so where we go from here, I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The chances are more plentiful when he plays. He just happens to miss them. We are not losing 9 points because he missed a few chances, when those chances wouldn't have existed without him there as a focal point. Plenty of strikers have gone on worse runs before coming good for premier league teams. #wait #wait? Wait till when April or May maybe when he finds his shooting boots and we are 2nd bottom with a little R next to our name in the table Or maybe #wait till October when he could hit the net against Burton Albion This f***er is no good man he's paid to score goals and he's failing miserably he's a f***ing carthorse This guy is right lads. Think we should play Gouffran and Townsend up front in a 442. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm sticking to this. He is missing sitters and some of them are horrendous. But people make out like he's missing 2-3 a game and if we got a natural finisher, we'd somehow be doing really well. We create on average, about one decent chance for him a game. There have been exceptions to the rule, West Ham for example. He usually then misses said chance and it's magnified ten fold. He's never going to be prolific, but I don't even think we'd have that many more goals with someone like Remy up there. Our supposed gameplan, is not conducive to creating good chances on a regular basis. I still like what he brings to the team. His technique is a bit raw and he looks like a right donkey at times. But if we are going to persist with one up top. Then I'd stick with Mitro. Unless Doumbia is able to train and actually shows up well. In which case, he should get a look in. Can't be much worse than what we currently have. I haven't seen the Watford highlights, where it sounded like we did create a lot. But I still don't think we're creating s*** loads, in general. Villa - we should have had been 2 up by the time they scored, but we weren't carving them apart. Went to s*** after Ayew scored and this is against the worst team in the league, at home. Everton - awful start to the game, dug in pretty well and made a scrap of it. I remember a couple of chances, one being the Mitrovic sitter. But not much else? WBA - Wijnaldum early on, Mitro should have had a pen and Dummett hit the bar from a corner. They had a lot more of the play and the better chances, if memory serves. Arsenal - Wijnaldum header was a half chance, ball falls to him due to a scuffed clearance and then he should have buried the 1 on 1. Mitro had that knee over the bar and then there were some other headers and bits and pieces. Not like we're missing 3-4 great chances a game. I think when you look at it from a neutral's POV. Bar the Arsenal game, I'm sure the opposition fans, will be saying similar to us. Other teams are creating just as much as us, if not more. Players like Mitrovic get one decent chance per game and if he misses, it's far more noticeable. I know it's hypothetical and he's not that good. But if he was playing for a team like Arsenal, he'd be getting on average, like 3-4 chances a game and chances to redeem himself if he missed early on. Maybe he'd still miss a load, who knows? I honestly think, we've become so used to s*** football. That creating a few chances per game, is seen as something positive. It's f***ing awful, like. We just don't create decent chances on a regular basis, or have anyone in our team, that can unlock a defence. We basically rely on Sissoko's power and pace to just steamroll through the opposition, then hope someone gets on the end of one of his cut backs. That's our gameplan? Even in the 5th placed season. We often created f*** all. We were just pretty solid and had spells of unbelievable form from Ba and Cisse. Plus we had the likes of Cabaye and HBA. Even Best chipped in with some decent goals to bag us some points. Our goal dif was still pretty low all year. Not sure where I'm going with this TBH?! Basically, unless they're s*** hot. I don't think signing a new striker is suddenly going to turn our form around. It goes much deeper than that. All that said, I wouldn't mind Remy. I just think the midfield is just as much, if not more of a problem and I don't have a great deal of confidence in the defence. We always seem to concede soft goals. So in summary, we're s*** all over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 We don't create many chances aye. But that's been the case for yonks. Ba could fight and scrap to poke one in. Cisse at times could pull any finish off. Remy has a sweeping side foot type of goal he can score from the edge of the box. Mitrovic is meant to be good in the air and rarely hits the target. With his feet he's hopeless atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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