ujpest doza Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Iirc, and those of you of a certain age please help me out, but the patter (irrespective of the song) about Andy Cole was similar, in that that he wasted a lot of chances. Thing was he also scored shit loads. He was always there or thereabouts in the right place, and had a plentiful supply from a phenomenal supporting cast. Wishful thinking maybe, despite their different styles, I can see signs of this 'gift' in Mitro. Think Coley was about the same age/bit older when he joined us. Hoping Mitro follows in the same tracks. (No, I don't mean falls out with the manager and f's off to Man U at the first opportunity!) I cannot remember Cole missing many chances (if any) to be honest. 68 goals in 84 games tells it's own story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Iirc, and those of you of a certain age please help me out, but the patter (irrespective of the song) about Andy Cole was similar, in that that he wasted a lot of chances. Thing was he also scored shit loads. He was always there or thereabouts in the right place, and had a plentiful supply from a phenomenal supporting cast. Wishful thinking maybe, despite their different styles, I can see signs of this 'gift' in Mitro. Think Coley was about the same age/bit older when he joined us. Hoping Mitro follows in the same tracks. (No, I don't mean falls out with the manager and f's off to Man U at the first opportunity!) I cannot remember Cole missing many chances (if any) to be honest. 68 goals in 84 games tells it's own story. i remember this about cole like but more once he left us...he was clinical as fuck in the short time he had with us but when he went to manyoo it was mentioned a lot that he needed XX chances to bury one etc. difference was at manyoo he got that amount of chances every single fucking game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 'Strikers miss chances' does not excuse poor finishing over the course of a season. Think the Misstrovic like comments are a bit embarrassing and over the top but it's a legitimate concern when we're back up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Iirc, and those of you of a certain age please help me out, but the patter (irrespective of the song) about Andy Cole was similar, in that that he wasted a lot of chances. Thing was he also scored s*** loads. He was always there or thereabouts in the right place, and had a plentiful supply from a phenomenal supporting cast. Wishful thinking maybe, despite their different styles, I can see signs of this 'gift' in Mitro. Think Coley was about the same age/bit older when he joined us. Hoping Mitro follows in the same tracks. (No, I don't mean falls out with the manager and f's off to Man U at the first opportunity!) Cole's conversion rate was excellent for us. He was as lethal as they come whilst here. This. Imre Varadi was the most erratic striker I can remember for us, but he was still twice the player Mitrovic is. I just really don't get the hero worship for the kid. It's based on absolutely fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 What was his conversion rate? Genuine sense was people always going on about needing 4 chances to score. Which evidently wasn't true but nevertheless was the Low Fell patter. He didn't need 4 chances, he needed Beardsley. Still an absolute bargain at 1.5m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Iirc, and those of you of a certain age please help me out, but the patter (irrespective of the song) about Andy Cole was similar, in that that he wasted a lot of chances. Thing was he also scored s*** loads. He was always there or thereabouts in the right place, and had a plentiful supply from a phenomenal supporting cast. Wishful thinking maybe, despite their different styles, I can see signs of this 'gift' in Mitro. Think Coley was about the same age/bit older when he joined us. Hoping Mitro follows in the same tracks. (No, I don't mean falls out with the manager and f's off to Man U at the first opportunity!) Cole's conversion rate was excellent for us. He was as lethal as they come whilst here. This. Imre Varadi was the most erratic striker I can remember for us, but he was still twice the player Mitrovic is. I just really don't get the hero worship for the kid. It's based on absolutely fuck all. That's probably because it doesn't exist. A fair few people, me included, rate him as a good prospect and like him as a player. Don't see a lot of this hero worship you're on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It shouldn't need to be said again like, but he's 21. "Hero worship" is something you've just made up to give yourself something to argue against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It shouldn't need to be said again like, but he's 21. "Hero worship" is something you've just made up to give yourself something to argue against. Exactly. People recognise he's young, hard-working and wants to do well, and as a result want to give him a chance to do so. 'hero worship' ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I think he will do well, due to the ban might take a little while to get going BUT once he does he should get 15-20 goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Andy Cole - one of the finest strikers to ever wear the black and white shirt, and indeed the Premier League, being compared to Mitro?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Only comparing in so much as being in the right place at the right time (arguable obviously), don't think anyones making comparisons on style of play or ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Anyone find record of Beardo's assists record per season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Anyone find record of Beardo's assists record per season? It'll be on espn and/or statbunker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Incorrect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Andy Cole's conversion rate was a lot better for us than many believe, he gets criticism largely for chances he missed for England. My biggest concern with Mitro is the number of times he's actually took air shots when presented with a chance, he may well turn out to be a confidence goal scorer rather than a natural goal scorer. The sooner he bags a goal the better and missing the first 4 games doesn't help. Out of interest, do you have any stats for that (although it was probably in an era before the stats were even kept)? My memory of Cole was that he was a great striker obviously, but he did miss quite a few chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Aguero misses a few chances. So does Ronaldo. So does Mitro. But one is currently a bang average PL player and the others are world class. Mitro's total of 9 isn't that bad. For some reason I thought he scored 5-6 goals. I know a couple were penalties but 9 isn't terrible. Not good but not terrible. But a lot of his misses cost us valuable points. a little more finishing ability, say 13-14 goals we would've stayed up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm not actually discussing Mitrovic at the moment. I merely wanted to know the statistics behind Cole's conversion rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 ^^ wasn't referring to you Hughesy. But to answer and not answer your question - I dont believe those stats were tracked in those days. I also think "conversion rate" is a bit misleading. Ronaldo's conversion rate would be bang average - because he's capable of scoring from anywhere and he takes shots from anywhere. Andy Cole may have missed chances but he was so clever in the box, great instincts. He pretty much only attempted finishes you would expect a goal in. He got a lot of good chances but a lot of that is down to his own smarts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 All strikers miss chances, the difference in Mitro and Cole is that Cole always seemed far more of a predator in front of goal. Half a chance and it was in the back of the net before the defence realised where he was. Mitro on the other hand is often found flat footed when the opportunities arise, although he has a lot more to his game than just goals so not really a fair comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 ^^ wasn't referring to you Hughesy. But to answer and not answer your question - I dont believe those stats were tracked in those days. I also think "conversion rate" is a bit misleading. Ronaldo's conversion rate would be bang average - because he's capable of scoring from anywhere and he takes shots from anywhere. Andy Cole may have missed chances but he was so clever in the box, great instincts. He pretty much only attempted finishes you would expect a goal in. He got a lot of good chances but a lot of that is down to his own smarts. not really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Lads, the championship is a new league, as are pre season games. He's s young lad, still adjusting to these new, variable tempos. And we don't create enough chances for him to score, where's the service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Lads, the championship is a new league, as are pre season games. He's s young lad, still adjusting to these new, variable tempos. And we don't create enough chances for him to score, where's the service? Coming up, on a plate, mate! All being well... "...your defence is terrified..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 He better be banging them in in this league, I don't know what his apologists would say if he doesn't. I've always liked the lad but we need a freakin' somewhat clinical striker. I'm glad we signed Gayle, maybe the load can be shared sufficiently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 His hold up play was excellent. Maybe people were singing his song to encourage him? Weird idea I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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