Kaizero Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Minutes played per goal isn't really a great way of judging a player. Iheanacho had an insane minutes per goal at City at one point iirc. Mitro has started for us in the Premier League 22 times and got 5 goals iirc, 1 of those a penalty. He was much better off the bench for us in 2015/16 Didn't finish all of those 22 starts on the pitch either, minutes played is the only proper way of doing things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Minutes played per goal isn't really a great way of judging a player. Iheanacho had an insane minutes per goal at City at one point iirc. Mitro has started for us in the Premier League 22 times and got 5 goals iirc, 1 of those a penalty. He was much better off the bench for us in 2015/16 Didn't finish all of those 22 starts on the pitch either, minutes played is the only proper way of doing things. Gayle had a very good goals per minutes ratio. A fair chunk of his goals were from the bench because he wasn't good enough to start regularly at this level. It's a tough one to be able to truly gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I think on current form if Fulham want to take him on as a Premiership player, he's currently £30million. If he has a good World Cup they simply can't afford him. Let's not forget they wanted £25million for Tom Cairney, a year ago. I know prices are mental but we will not get £30m for Mitro ffs. Bought him for £13 million and his value has not exactly decreased. I concur, but we will not get £30m for Mitro. There is literally no chance, I'm sorry. Vehemently disagree given that we got £35 million for Carroll before prices even began to get as ridiculous as today. Assuming he does well at the WC his price would increase even more. The only reason we wouldn't be able to get £30m for him under those circumstances would be the incompetence of our club negotiating with other clubs, which to be fair, is very possible. Carroll was scoring goals in the Premier, and at the time looked unplayable. While I understand player values have rocketed since then, I still think Mitro will need to show some form in the Premier to generate interest at that sort of money. Tom Cairney is rated at £20m+ without a single PL appearance. Strikers are usually more expensive, a striker with a decent PL goal ratio is bound to cost more. Anything less than £25m-£30m would be pathetic. He’s still only 23. Slimani was bought for £30m with nothing but a few goals in a piss poor Portuguese league. No one paid the £25m for Cairney did they? I'm not saying we shouldn't slap a £30m price tag on Mitro, just that I can't see anyone paying it at this point. Why wouldn’t they? See Hans’ post above. He’s increased in value as he’s increased in performance/ability. Name me a young international striker in as good form as Mitro that isn’t worth £30m+. You can continue to dislike him but he continues to score goals and perform well both at club and international level. Even a half decent Championship player goes for £15m+ these days. It's got nothing to do with disliking him, I just don't think a club will pay £30m for him because of what he's doing in the championship. Hans doesn't think so either unless I'm reading that wrong. Nobody is saying that is the case, it's just that what he is doing in the championships supports what he has already done at international level and in the prem. He's doing well in the championship, what I'm questioning is how that will make anyone pay £30m for him. [n]His record in the Premier wasn't good[/b], not sure it was any better than Gayle's tbh. International level is decent, but again, in the Premier he's up against defenders who are used to dealing with his physicality. He might well do fine in the Premier next season, just think there's going to remain a question mark until he's done it, so I can't see any team spending £30m. Fulham might give us £15-20m if they get promoted. I think we'll get £20-25m if it's Fulham, or another PL team doing the bidding but I can't see how anyone will think £30m is worth a punt when they know he's not wanted by Rafa as well. Plus there's all the questionable shit he's done on the pitch and lack of impact at PL level. Would be some kind of mad cunt to be paying that kind of money. 1 goal every 2.5 games in the PL for Mitro. Meanwhile, Gayle is 1 goal every 3.5 games this season. Rondon, an aging forward that people seem to want on here, has 1 goal per 2.38 games in the PL. Sturridge the past two seasons has been a 1 in 2.84 striker, seemingly living forever on the one amazing season he had in 13/14 and the fact he's English. I was talking about Gayle's record in the premier, not just this season. Not that I particularly know what that is either tbh, a player's value isn't just decided by stats, Sturridge being a case in point. Not much doubt about his Premier pedigree, no matter how you present his stats, it's all the other factors which would count against him. 1 in 2.48 all-time in PL for Gayle. So about the same as Mitro overall then. That's where age and potential for improvement differentiates them quite a bit. More goals (per appearance based on minutes played) in the Championship than Gayle at the moment as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 30m, minimum. in this market If he was English (I don't know why it makes a difference but it does) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Would love to get Mitro sold for a daft amount to some Euro club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey jake Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I actually think there’s a good chance rafa will keep him and give him the number 9 next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I actually think there’s a good chance rafa will keep him and give him the number 9 next year. I think there's a good chance you're mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shakey jake Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 HAhAhAHa rofl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 if fulham go up and want mitro, they'll go all out to have him signed before the world cup possibly paying more than they want to. they know a couple of decent goals in russia and his price goes up even further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Probably out our best scenario, an early sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 All that money in the bank for our (youngest and) best striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Aleksandar Mitrovic is firing Fulham towards promotion after falling out of favour at Newcastle. He tells Sky Sports about his outstanding form, what he has learnt from his "silly mistakes", and how countryman Slavisa Jokanovic is helping him channel his aggression... "So many things were going through my head," Aleksandar Mitrovic tells Sky Sports. The Serb is casting his mind back to the drama of transfer deadline day, when a proposed loan move to his former club Anderlecht collapsed at the 11th hour, threatening to leave him in non-playing limbo at Newcastle in a World Cup year. Mitrovic recalls the "stress" of flying back from Belgium with his future unresolved and the "pressure" of the clock ticking towards the deadline, but on a sunny afternoon in south-west London three months later, he is thankful. If things had worked out as intended, he would never have sent the opportunistic message to Slavisa Jokanovic which led him to Fulham. "It was worth the stress," he says with a smile. "One hundred per cent." All the stress has melted away now. The tattooed 23-year-old has a reputation as a hot-head but in a small stand overlooking one of the training pitches at Fulham's Motspur Park training ground, where he has just collected the Sky Bet Championship Player of the Month award, he seems totally at ease. Mitrovic could not get a game at Newcastle, but he has scored nine goals in his first 11 starts for Fulham. His latest, a clinical first-time finish which secured a late 1-0 win at Sheffield Wednesday at the weekend, put Fulham within touching distance of the automatic promotion places. On Tuesday night, they jumped above Cardiff with another victory over Reading. Fulham are on an extraordinary 20-game unbeaten run. The Premier League is within reach. "I hope I will continue like this and the team will continue with this form," says Mitrovic. "We only have a few games left but they are all finals. We need that mentality to continue like this and try to put the pressure on Cardiff. We have some tough games but they do too so it's going to be interesting." Mitrovic, a £13m signing from Anderlecht in 2015, had not started a league game in nine months at Newcastle. He insists his relationship with Rafael Benitez remains cordial, but the emphasis on tactics and defence did not suit him. At free-wheeling Fulham, who have scored more goals than any other Championship side since the turn of the year, he feels far more comfortable. "I really enjoy the way the team plays and the players that they have," he says. "It's a good style and a good team for me. I think it's a good team for any striker. I thought I could enjoy this style and I'm really happy to be on the pitch and scoring goals to try to do the best that I can to help the team achieve what we want from this season." Does he have any regrets about Newcastle? "I would never say I regret that I was there, but I have regret because I didn't play as much as I could and maybe I should have scored more goals. There are a lot of things I wanted to do there that I didn't do, so of course I have regret, but I still enjoyed my time there and I'm still a Newcastle player so we will see what happens." At the moment, though, his focus is Fulham. Mitrovic has relished the service provided by new team-mates Stefan Johansen, Tom Cairney and Ryan Sessegnon - "I think he is a player who is going to play for a top, top club," he says of the latter - but the most important influence is undoubtedly Jokanovic, who he has known since his days at boyhood club Partizan Belgrade. "He was a big player in Serbia and now he's one of the best managers Serbia have," says Mitrovic. "He looks tough but he's a real gentleman and a really nice guy. I spoke to him a few times and in the end we ended up together so I'm really happy. I'm really enjoying working with him and playing under him. He didn't give up on me and neither did Fulham." It comes down to "faith, trust and game-time", according to Mitrovic. "That's important if you are a striker. I could tell that he felt confidence in me. If you really feel trust from the manager, it's much easier to play. That's what I feel now. I know that he believes in me and I know what he wants from me. My job is to do that and do it well. I hope I will continue like this." Mitrovic has given Fulham the attacking focal point they previously lacked and already scored more times than any of the club's other strikers have managed all season, but he is just as popular among fans for his full-blooded style as his goals. Since his debut, there have been three bookings, a bicep-flexing celebration against Sheffield United and more fouls than any other Fulham player. Crucially, however, his aggression has not yet spilled over. Mitrovic is an explosive, instinctive striker whose short fuse and maverick character have already landed him five career red cards at the age of just 23 - including two in one season at Newcastle - but so far at Fulham he has largely succeeded in keeping his temper in check. So how has Jokanovic helped? Mitrovic smiles and makes a calming motion with his hands. "He tells me: 'Use your head and stay calm'," he says. "He tells me to stay focused and not spend energy on some things that are not important." Rather than removing the natural aggression that makes him such a handful for opposition defenders, however, it is simply a case of curbing it. "I am very competitive and I want to win every game," he says. "That's my way. That's how I have played all my life. It's how I see football and that's it. I'm a winner and I will try to do everything to win the game. "I made some silly mistakes but I have tried to learn from my mistakes. It's not always possible to channel the anger in the right way but I try to stay focused on the team and to do my job. That is to stay on the pitch and to score goals, to assist, to create space. I need my passion but I have to control it. I try to use it on the goal and on the team." Mitrovic's fine form has prompted links with Premier League sides West Ham and Everton, but he has not ruled out staying at Fulham, nor is he certain of leaving Newcastle permanently. "I am 100 per cent focused on Fulham and the upcoming games," he says. "I hope we get promoted, then I will have the World Cup, then I will need to rest a little bit, then we will see what happens. But I am 100 per cent with my head here. I want to give back to Fulham because they gave me the chance to come here, play games and be part of this beautiful club. I will do everything I can to help the team get promoted." All the stress, pressure and uncertainty of deadline day is still fresh in the memory, but it would be foolish to bet against him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 It was all looking really positive until he mentioned needing a rest. He's only played for 2 months ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 It was all looking really positive until he mentioned needing a rest. He's only played for 2 months ffs. He'll have played for six months when he's gonna rest though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Really pleased he's doing well, much better to go to Fulham than back to Belgium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 theres one game i'm so looking forward to seeing him play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 That cunt scored yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 That cunt scored yet? Looks like a big plodder atm, Sessegnon is the only one who's shown flashes of quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Straight swap for Sessegnon imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Holding it up well. Doesn't look very plodder-like to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rompe Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Great goal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 WOW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 lush finish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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