TRon Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. well our manager has just gone on telly and said the same as everyone else, if the laws were that clear would he have done so? it was clumsy, there was no intent whatsoever, it was a bullshit sending off man EDIT: oh yeah and if you think the ref had a decent game there you're utterly, utterly deluded like Mate of course the manager is defending Mitrovic, rightly so, it's his player and it wasn't malicious, but at the same time, it was dangerous. I'd be fucking livid if McClaren didn't defend his players in public. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 i'm genuinely saddened at some of the reactions here, he's 20 years old man and has just been sent off on 15 minutes for what at worst can be described as a clumsy challenge years gone by we'd all be behind him, now we're falling over ourselves to find reasons why a clearly dodgy reffing performance was in fact a good one fuck off Eh? Of course we're behind him, but we need him to be on the pitch and not sat watching in the stands to get behind him. We could always try appealing against the red, but do you honestly think it's going to get overturned? It being overturned is more of an issue of how corrupt and unaccountable referees are these days. You could argue it was harsh and you would have a point, you could argue it was dangerous and you would still have a point. It's not clear cut unfortunately, and his being involved in a few of similar challenges has gone against him. Tackling with your studs up is always going to be dicey, he's going to have to cut that out. tell me how it was dangerous please...he was essentially standing and had no momentum whatsoever, he tried to nick the ball but his natural motion took him down onto the lads leg when the ball went studs up and all that shit was meant for something very different, no way the lad could get hurt from that challenge, none Well maybe I am just imagining the rules have changed a bit since the days of Vinnie Jones, and these days if you miss the ball and rake someone's shins with your studs it's a good chance it might be a red. he didn't "rake his legs", he stood where he landed after trying to get the ball and then took his foot away thinking nothing of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. well our manager has just gone on telly and said the same as everyone else, if the laws were that clear would he have done so? it was clumsy, there was no intent whatsoever, it was a bullshit sending off man EDIT: oh yeah and if you think the ref had a decent game there you're utterly, utterly deluded like Mate of course the manager is defending Mitrovic, rightly so, it's his player and it wasn't malicious, but at the same time, it was dangerous. I'd be fucking livid if McClaren didn't defend his players in public. dangerous bollocks man, planet soft cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. A few harsh yellows and failure to give the same treatment for the same challenge by arsenal add up to an abysmal performance to me. Ask the same neutral fans when they're being hamstrung by a shit one-sided harsh performance if they think the ref has had a great performance and see if they're in agreement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. A few harsh yellows and failure to give the same treatment for the same challenge by arsenal add up to an abysmal performance to me. Ask the same neutral fans when they're being hamstrung by a shit one-sided harsh performance if they think the ref has had a great performance and see if they're in agreement. fuck this shit man, so many fans pardewed into taking whatever we get and lapping it up with a biscuit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. well our manager has just gone on telly and said the same as everyone else, if the laws were that clear would he have done so? it was clumsy, there was no intent whatsoever, it was a bullshit sending off man EDIT: oh yeah and if you think the ref had a decent game there you're utterly, utterly deluded like Mate of course the manager is defending Mitrovic, rightly so, it's his player and it wasn't malicious, but at the same time, it was dangerous. I'd be fucking livid if McClaren didn't defend his players in public. dangerous bollocks man, planet soft cunt Yeah, welcome to 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. well our manager has just gone on telly and said the same as everyone else, if the laws were that clear would he have done so? it was clumsy, there was no intent whatsoever, it was a bullshit sending off man EDIT: oh yeah and if you think the ref had a decent game there you're utterly, utterly deluded like Mate of course the manager is defending Mitrovic, rightly so, it's his player and it wasn't malicious, but at the same time, it was dangerous. I'd be fucking livid if McClaren didn't defend his players in public. dangerous bollocks man, planet soft cunt Yeah, welcome to 2015 so do you think it was actually dangerous or are you quoting some stupid fucking rule? because "studs up" and "raking studs" are technically both dangerous in certain circumstances but mitrovic did neither and the player was in no danger whatsoever this is surely the crux of the matter? second yellow? aye alright, straight red? get fucked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. well our manager has just gone on telly and said the same as everyone else, if the laws were that clear would he have done so? it was clumsy, there was no intent whatsoever, it was a bullshit sending off man EDIT: oh yeah and if you think the ref had a decent game there you're utterly, utterly deluded like Mate of course the manager is defending Mitrovic, rightly so, it's his player and it wasn't malicious, but at the same time, it was dangerous. I'd be fucking livid if McClaren didn't defend his players in public. dangerous bollocks man, planet soft cunt Yeah, welcome to 2015 so do you think it was actually dangerous or are you quoting some stupid fucking rule? because "studs up" and "raking studs" are technically both dangerous in certain circumstances but mitrovic did neither and the player was in no danger whatsoever this is surely the crux of the matter? second yellow? aye alright, straight red? get fucked I think I've said how I saw it plenty of times now, his studs ended up in someone's shins, and that's usually interpreted as dangerous play by the refs these days intentional or not. He might have got away with it if he hadn't been involved in reckless challenges before today. Rules have changed and are generally applied a lot more harshly these days and that's the same for everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Anyone who thinks that's a red is a c**t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Anyone who thinks that's a red is a c**t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Technically it was a red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Anyone who thinks that's a red is a c**t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. well our manager has just gone on telly and said the same as everyone else, if the laws were that clear would he have done so? it was clumsy, there was no intent whatsoever, it was a bullshit sending off man EDIT: oh yeah and if you think the ref had a decent game there you're utterly, utterly deluded like Mate of course the manager is defending Mitrovic, rightly so, it's his player and it wasn't malicious, but at the same time, it was dangerous. I'd be fucking livid if McClaren didn't defend his players in public. dangerous bollocks man, planet soft cunt Yeah, welcome to 2015 so do you think it was actually dangerous or are you quoting some stupid fucking rule? because "studs up" and "raking studs" are technically both dangerous in certain circumstances but mitrovic did neither and the player was in no danger whatsoever this is surely the crux of the matter? second yellow? aye alright, straight red? get fucked I think I've said how I saw it plenty of times now, his studs ended up in someone's shins, and that's usually interpreted as dangerous play by the refs these days intentional or not. He might have got away with it if he hadn't been involved in reckless challenges before today. Rules have changed and are generally applied a lot more harshly these days and that's the same for everyone. don't have replays but i'd argue this isn't correct from the clips i watched Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Technically it was a red. quote the rule pls EDIT: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Technically it was a red. Yes and therefore the ref is a cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It isn't a red card. Unfortunately he's a marked man as far as refs are concerned, and he will get reds that other players won't. He's gonna have to be aware of that. I can see how it looks bad if you think he went in for a leg breaker. But it's quite clear it's just a clumsy challenge. His studs are pointing down and he's gone for the ball. It's a yellow but it's never a straight red. You see those all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. well our manager has just gone on telly and said the same as everyone else, if the laws were that clear would he have done so? it was clumsy, there was no intent whatsoever, it was a bullshit sending off man EDIT: oh yeah and if you think the ref had a decent game there you're utterly, utterly deluded like Mate of course the manager is defending Mitrovic, rightly so, it's his player and it wasn't malicious, but at the same time, it was dangerous. I'd be fucking livid if McClaren didn't defend his players in public. dangerous bollocks man, planet soft cunt Yeah, welcome to 2015 so do you think it was actually dangerous or are you quoting some stupid fucking rule? because "studs up" and "raking studs" are technically both dangerous in certain circumstances but mitrovic did neither and the player was in no danger whatsoever this is surely the crux of the matter? second yellow? aye alright, straight red? get fucked I think I've said how I saw it plenty of times now, his studs ended up in someone's shins, and that's usually interpreted as dangerous play by the refs these days intentional or not. He might have got away with it if he hadn't been involved in reckless challenges before today. Rules have changed and are generally applied a lot more harshly these days and that's the same for everyone. don't have replays but i'd argue this isn't correct from the clips i watched I thin you'll find that there'll be photos which prove it is before too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It's a soft red clearly and I certainly wouldn't give it but even if the ref gave a yellow it's not good to have a striker getting a yellow card in most games. He's going to be a bit of a liability until he stops flying into challenges Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It isn't a red card. Unfortunately he's a marked man as far as refs are concerned, and he will get reds that other players won't. He's gonna have to be aware of that. I can see how it looks bad if you think he went in for a leg breaker. But it's quite clear it's just a clumsy challenge. His studs are pointing down and he's gone for the ball. It's a yellow but it's never a straight red. You see those all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Harsh red but not exactly unexpected given the studs connected and it was high and it was Mitrovic. He's only 20 and is too eager to impress and get going. He just needs to calm down. He's a marked man now though. The club have to come out and protect him and fans need to be patient too. I was so looking forward to seeing him as well. From what I saw though he looks clumsy and one paced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 He does need to work on his tackling ferocity. We need his goals more than his tackles. Love the cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 It's a soft red clearly and I certainly wouldn't give it but even if the ref gave a yellow it's not good to have a striker getting a yellow card in most games. He's going to be a bit of a liability until he stops flying into challenges That's how I saw it, a soft red. The ref could have let it go, but you can bet if he had there would have been plenty shouting in the studio that it was a red. You have to make sure you don't give refs a chance to do that these days, hopefully he'll learn from this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm sorry like, I disagree with anyone who says that wasn't a red. By the letter of the law it was as clear a red card as you'll see. And I thought Sissoko thoroughly deserved the yellow early on as well. Thought the red did fine to be honest. Embarrassing hearing our fans chanting all that stuff at the ref when in reality he's had a decent game. Mitrovic needs to do better...simple. He's only got himself to blame. Go and watch Rugby, ffs. missed the "decent game" bit there aw man Haha...you can argue all the like about it man. Fact is, the rules are the rules and Mitrovic did something that IS a red card. No denying. Whether it was harsh/clumsy or not is irrelevant really. You'd be hard pushed to find many neutral fans watching that who disagreed with much that the red did, barring a few harsh yellows after the red card. well our manager has just gone on telly and said the same as everyone else, if the laws were that clear would he have done so? it was clumsy, there was no intent whatsoever, it was a bullshit sending off man EDIT: oh yeah and if you think the ref had a decent game there you're utterly, utterly deluded like Mate of course the manager is defending Mitrovic, rightly so, it's his player and it wasn't malicious, but at the same time, it was dangerous. I'd be fucking livid if McClaren didn't defend his players in public. dangerous bollocks man, planet soft cunt Yeah, welcome to 2015 so do you think it was actually dangerous or are you quoting some stupid fucking rule? because "studs up" and "raking studs" are technically both dangerous in certain circumstances but mitrovic did neither and the player was in no danger whatsoever this is surely the crux of the matter? second yellow? aye alright, straight red? get fucked I think I've said how I saw it plenty of times now, his studs ended up in someone's shins, and that's usually interpreted as dangerous play by the refs these days intentional or not. He might have got away with it if he hadn't been involved in reckless challenges before today. Rules have changed and are generally applied a lot more harshly these days and that's the same for everyone. don't have replays but i'd argue this isn't correct from the clips i watched I thin you'll find that there'll be photos which prove it is before too long. well i'd be amazed if they exist because i sat and watched mitro's foot land half on top of the other lads foot and half up his shin, as soon as he "hit" he pulled away and the arsenal pricked rolled around like he'd been murdered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Gutted, was looking forward to seeing him. Thought he was just getting himself into the game when the sending off happened, couple of nice bits of interplay and hold up etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 went looking for some pictures of the sending off and this is what i was met with as a result: "Aleksandar Mitrovic sent off for Newcastle against Arsenal – is he the Premier League's most rash player?" Yep let's blame the lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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