Kanj Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Fng Mbokani Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Not sure if Giggs but this thread needs a bump regardless as he seems a spot on character. Love how seriously he took the wedding and barely cracked a smile then just lets loose at the night time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Is it the same tux he had when he signed for us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midstoon Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Half expecting Mitro to come crashing through the door swigging from a bottle of absinthe at the reception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 So, just to clarify, TCD thinks Paul Dummett had a better season than Chancel Mbemba.. Yes. He was much more important to the team for a couple reasons. Firstly, his deputant is awful and injury prone. Can't defend, can't attack - nothing good about his ability except athleticism that he doesn't put to effect. Then he also missed plenty of games and the lads that filled in were also worse. Secondly, Mbemba didn't add anything to the team last season. Whether he was in or out it didn't affect the team much. He played most of the season with Colo - they have similar strengths and identical weaknesses except pace. When Lascelles came into the team under Rafa he offered something new. Leadership, brawn and aerial ability - all things Mbemba lacks. We were a weak team from set pieces and crosses before Mbemba joined, and he didn't help that at all. With Dummett, he's like a 3rd CB who is actually good in the air. He makes such a difference defensively, he helps the CB positionally and in the air. Had Dummett played 3 more games over the course of the season his defensive smarts would've gained us a point (or make up for a point his stand-in lost). I'm not anti-Mbemba. He seems a decent lad and has good footballing skills. But he was a nothing player last season. The best thing about his play last season is that he looks to play forward passes and carried the ball forward. Hopefully he can adapt to the English game in the Champo this season and come back a better PL player. But aye - last season he was pap. A central defender in a team that can't defend is likely to be pap that year. The team damn near to a man, was pap. Think Lascelles under Rafa Anita at RB Sissoko created chances Townsend was legit good Dummett was solid when fit Wijnaldum had 4-5 good games or scored important goals The rest 2-3 good games followed by average - total pap. Including Anita at CM (one of the worst culprits), Wijnaldum 80% of the time was total ghost, Lascelles in the few games he played pre-Rafa. Dummett himself missed half the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 To be fair to TCD, Dummett has always been reliable from a defensive point of view and Mbemba has made the odd error. I think Mbemba has much more potential but they are both young and can improve. I like them both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Paul Dummett is going to be viewed as a youngster forever isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 there's some truth in that diatribe about the chancellor but it's overly negative imo, for a start he was fit for the majority of the season, his head never dropped during the shite times and he was certainly no worse than any of the other pap that played despite it being his first season in the country at age 21 he was a massive positive last season for me, love the chancellor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Paul Dummett is going to be viewed as a youngster forever isn't he? I know. He's 25 in September. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 In no way did dummett look rosier than mbemba last season. In fairness to both of them. Winjaldum and Lennie small near them both weren't great for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I love him anarl - this season under a decent manager will make him imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I think Mbemba's best attributes that really stand out is his ability to provide cover with his pace, his tremendous slide tackling ability, and his passing / dribbling into space to help build attacks. He's decent in the air and holds his own most of the time when he doesn't have to cover the massive strikers (and now that Hanley and Lascelles are around we're fine there). Rafa will develop him into a class player IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Has a class chant too. Top player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 He quality, my fave kind of defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 He quality, my fave kind of defender. He is top class like, don't know why some people like to nitpick, but I'm pretty sure Rafa will absolutely rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Not sure why some people like to nitpick It's a football forum that's why, you have to determine the attributes and weaknesses of players. Watching football would be pointless if you didn't nitpick the attributes of the players Mbemba was good at the back end of the season but he did make some vital errors and looked shaky during the course of the season, which people have rightly picked up on. Obviously you have to think about the circumstances he was thrown into but stuff like him giving the ball away right in the middle of the pitch for one of Man Utd's goals was his fault, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 With more organisation and improved quality across the board I'm sure we won't see the same sort of mad shit like his through ball to Jelavic to give West Ham a goal against us. Rafa will keep him spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 With more organisation and improved quality across the board I'm sure we won't see the same sort of mad s*** like his through ball to Jelavic to give West Ham a goal against us. Rafa will keep him spot on. Agreed. Easy to forget he's (allegedly) 21, a baby in centre-back terms. Lascelles too, good future potential partnership if they both play a decent chunk of games together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Depends on his brain. I like him a lot and like Bramble he's obviously got some great attributes, just depends on his capacity to listen and learn to improve his positioning, concentration and sloppiness at times. Providing he's not an idiot he should become good enough for when we are hopefully a top 10 kind of team though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Has a class chant too. Top player. Best original chant we've come up with since Philippe Albert imo, it's brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 My "Mbemba me, I was the ennnnd of Coloccini" chant is finally accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 The chancellor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Class act the Chancellor of the exchequer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leek Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Thought he was quality today, looks so confident on the ball and played some great balls out from the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Hope we hold onto him, he'll find this league easy as anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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