Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow. They should have had a pen as well. The one that did annoy me was Thavin on Coquelin. Probably a free kick, very possibly a yellow, but Coquelin rolling around like that? Nah, I'm at pains to use it because it gets on my nerves when people say it, but that game has gone ridiculously soft. I'd need to see the full match to see how the ref was overall and it didn't include the Coloccini challenge so I'm not fully informed, but of the big decisions we can have no complaints imo. I was expecting it to be like Mark Noble's red card, which is possibly the most pathetic red card I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 That surely has to go down as England's worst ever strike force. Jay Bothroyd and others have gotten caps in recent years, it's not that bad. I suppose we could be saying the same about Vardy in two years though. No worse than the days of Crouch etc. I'd take a Sterling-Rooney-Walcott front three, over Crouch-Defore any day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow. This was his third game man. You shouldn't be sending people off on 'reputation' after three fucking games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow. This was his third game man. You shouldn't be sending people off on 'reputation' after three fucking games. Precisely, but he does and it's his his own fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow. This was his third game man. You shouldn't be sending people off on 'reputation' after three fucking games. Precisely, but he does and it's his his own fault. It's his own fault a ref who is considered universally shit by everyone sends him off on a 'reputation' gained in less than 2 full 90 minutes of football? Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow. This was his third game man. You shouldn't be sending people off on 'reputation' after three fucking games. Precisely, but he does and it's his his own fault. It's his own fault a ref who is considered universally shit by everyone sends him off on a 'reputation' gained in less than 2 full 90 minutes of football? Nah. I didn't say that his reputation was the reason that he was sent off, I said that it contributed to an already late, clumsy challenge. Marriner is shit, but I don't argue with him being sent off for that. You're talking about a player that in his first interview said that he liked to fight, and who in those less than 2 full 90 minutes of football, rightly got a yellow card within seconds of coming on for his debut and who then did the same thing again vs Swansea and rightly got a yellow again. Up until that point he'd rightly had two yellow cards in something like 20 minutes of football. It was an 'orange card' imo and with that in mind I'm not surprised at all that he got sent off, It's something we've seen coming. I also think that if Sissoko and Mitrovic's fouls were swapped, you'd still have Sissoko with a yellow and Mitrovic with a red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Sissoko's studs were down on the player's foot rather than the lower shin area as well like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 What does saying he likes to fight have to do with missing the ball in a genuine attempt and landing on the other guys leg? He was sent off cause the ref is shite and knew he'd fucked up the penalty decision earlier, plus he'd probably had Arsenal nipping his head before the game about Mitrovic as well I'm sure. Still makes it a terrible sending off. Never a red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 What does saying he likes to fight have to do with missing the ball in a genuine attempt and landing on the other guys leg? He was sent off cause the ref is shite and knew he'd fucked up the penalty decision earlier, plus he'd probably had Arsenal nipping his head before the game about Mitrovic as well I'm sure. Still makes it a terrible sending off. Never a red. I've literally just explained why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 It was a shit decision by a weak willed referee, probably influenced by a lot of things. It was not a red card challenge, it was barely a yellow. Correct decision would have been to give him a talking to, give him a chance to calm down IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Surprised there hasn't been a poll TBH! Split opinions all over the place. I thought it was red at the time. The more I look at it, the more I think it's a bit soft. To coin a load of annoying ref phrases. In this day and age. Anything that can be seen as studs showing, a stamp, a rake etc. Will usually result in a red card. I think it was mistimed and it nearly always looks worse in slow mo. But he does then seem to stamp down, once he's hit that twat Coquelin's shin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Thing is if you're sending players off for that (eyes on the ball and stood in his foot) you will never see a match in the PL finish 11 v 11. Of course the cynic in me would suggest that had it been an Arsenal player on a Newcastle player a red card doesn't get shown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around. The difference between a fan shouting for a decision and a professional referee giving it should not need explaining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around. The difference between a fan shouting for a decision and a professional referee giving it should not need explaining. I mean as in you'd still be shouting on that it should have been a red now if it was the other way around. You need to take your NUFC goggles off imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 End of the day it was dangerous play, whether intentional or not, it was reckless. Red for me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around. I think some of them still haven't caught up with the tougher guidelines for referees concerning dangerous tackles and think it's still 1995. Going into a tackle with your studs up and shin high is asking for a red even if there is minimal contact. I had this argument on Saturday with mojo and he ended up telling me to fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around. I certainly wouldn't. How soft do people want this league to be, man. Yellow card all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 It only looks a red because of the modern trend of pointlessly viewing everything back in slow motion and from 40 different angles. In real time no-one even reacted to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Even Waddle the daft cunt thought it was a yellow until he saw it in super slo-mo from a reverse angle and then said "I can see why he's given it from here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around. I think some of them still haven't caught up with the tougher guidelines for referees concerning dangerous tackles and think it's still 1995. Going into a tackle with your studs up and shin high is asking for a red even if there is minimal contact. I had this argument on Saturday with mojo and he ended up telling me to fuck off. That reminds me, I saw Match of the Day highlights of a match between us an Wimbledon where Vinnie Jones nigh on kicked Rob Lee's head off and Jimmy Hill sat there and implied that the game had gone soft and that he was unfortunate to be sent off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 End of the day it was dangerous play, whether intentional or not, it was reckless. Red for me like. How was it dangerous though? No actual force. It was reckless because it was careless, but no way was it dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around. I certainly wouldn't. How soft do people want this league to be, man. Yellow card all day. I think the majority would. It was late and over the ball with his studs down Coquelin's shin man. What more do you want? The only thing missing is it being intentional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around. I think some of them still haven't caught up with the tougher guidelines for referees concerning dangerous tackles and think it's still 1995. Going into a tackle with your studs up and shin high is asking for a red even if there is minimal contact. I had this argument on Saturday with mojo and he ended up telling me to fuck off. How do you even go in to that challenge without your studs showing man? He's in a standing position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The studs showing challenge is referring to sliding tackles where you smash into the ball with your heel (it's a red even if you win the ball), it doesn't mean the soles of your feet should permanently be facing soil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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