Newcastle 0-1 Andre Marriner - 29/8/15 - Post Match Reaction From Page 5

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TOON ABUSE IS DISGRACE - Ian Wright

 

I was at the Newcastle v Arsenal match at the weekend, in the middle of the Toon fans, and was disgusted by the abuse they hurled at Andre Marriner.

 

It wasn't just a small group - it was thousands of them acting in unison - and I found it unfair and deeply offensive. Ref Marriner got the decision to send off Aleksandar Mitrovic absolutely spot on. He went in over the top on Francis Coquelin with his studs showing and it was an automatic red card. It didn't matter whether that happened after 16 minutes or 86. A red card is a red card and for Newcastle fans to accuse Marriner of spoiling the game is crazy. Blame Mitrovic for that.

 

But the amount of venom that came from the fans was something I genuinely haven't experienced before. I've played in matches where the supporters were extremely hostile but not like this. They were at the ref for the whole of the game, even though he actually turned in a really good performance -  which is quite something under the circumstances.

 

If he got one big decision wrong, it was when he refused to give Arsenal a penalty. Otherwise he got the big calls right. I don't like to see bullying in any form, and that is what the Toon fans were doing. It's not on, and when it gets this bad the authorities have to look at it and take action.

 

Ok, when there are that many people involved, it's tough to know what to do. But clubs also have to think of ways to protect refs from this kind of intimidation. Let's do something before this becomes the norm.

Holy fucking shit

[TRon]

Wright was a class striker, but is an absolute bell end as a pundit. It's as if these sports channels go out of their way to put the most obnoxious, ignorant ex-players in front of a camera. Ian Wright...Robbie Savage....Paul Merson....they are just there to wind people up.

[ohmelads]

You know something is up when a fan of the winning team is trying his best to defend a referee's performance, rather than talk about the game.

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

He played quite well with Shearer in Le Tournoi and while Shearer was out most of the next season including as a lone striker in the 0-0 in Rome. He should really have scored right at the end of that match.

 

Always remember that performance. That was when he went around the keeper and hit the post from an angle wasn't it?

 

Scored against Italy in the opening game of Le Tournoi, didn't he?

[Incognito]

He played quite well with Shearer in Le Tournoi and while Shearer was out most of the next season including as a lone striker in the 0-0 in Rome. He should really have scored right at the end of that match.

 

Always remember that performance. That was when he went around the keeper and hit the post from an angle wasn't it?

Yes, we so nearly got caught out with a counter attack straight after. Wright really should have wandered into the corner for a bit of time wasting but he couldn't help himself.

[Incognito]

That surely has to go down as England's worst ever strike force.

 

Jay Bothroyd and others have gotten caps in recent years, it's not that bad. I suppose we could be saying the same about Vardy in two years though.

I once saw John Fashanu partner Tony Cottee at Hampden Park. That was a particular low point for me. Now isn't far off though.

[Incognito]

He played quite well with Shearer in Le Tournoi and while Shearer was out most of the next season including as a lone striker in the 0-0 in Rome. He should really have scored right at the end of that match.

 

Always remember that performance. That was when he went around the keeper and hit the post from an angle wasn't it?

 

Scored against Italy in the opening game of Le Tournoi, didn't he?

He did indeed. Another major trophy for England's cabinet that was.

[Stifler]

Ian Wright should stick to co-hosting Guiness world records.

 

The referee didn't get so much abuse just because of the red card, he got it for every decision he made.

 

If fans are allowed to boo their own team when they play badly, their own managers, opposition players when they performed unsportingly, then why aren't they allowed to boo a referee when he's bad?

The fact that 50k people boo's him so loud, and give him the worst reception a referee has had outside of places like Brazil where the fans will actually beat up or kill referee's, then what does that say about his performance?

Newcastle fans are used to poor performers by referee's, any club not in the top 6 are used to them, if his reception got worse then ever before then that says more about the referee and not the fans.

 

Wheeling out ex players and pundits who have played for the top 6 clubs and are paid by TV channels who have biased coverage, alongside a former referee who was regarding as Man Utd's 12th man by all clubs, even Man Utd to say otherwise means fuck all.

[Interpolic]

Ian Wright should stick to co-hosting Guiness world records.

 

You're really trying to make this structure work for you.

[Nattfare]

He played quite well with Shearer in Le Tournoi and while Shearer was out most of the next season including as a lone striker in the 0-0 in Rome. He should really have scored right at the end of that match.

 

Always remember that performance. That was when he went around the keeper and hit the post from an angle wasn't it?

 

Scored against Italy in the opening game of Le Tournoi, didn't he?

 

That signature.

[Guest firetotheworks]

I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow.

 

They should have had a pen as well. The one that did annoy me was Thavin on Coquelin. Probably a free kick, very possibly a yellow, but Coquelin rolling around like that? Nah, I'm at pains to use it because it gets on my nerves when people say it, but that game has gone ridiculously soft.

 

I'd need to see the full match to see how the ref was overall and it didn't include the Coloccini challenge so I'm not fully informed, but of the big decisions we can have no complaints imo. I was expecting it to be like Mark Noble's red card, which is possibly the most pathetic red card I've ever seen.

[Beren]

That surely has to go down as England's worst ever strike force.

 

Jay Bothroyd and others have gotten caps in recent years, it's not that bad. I suppose we could be saying the same about Vardy in two years though.

 

No worse than the days of Crouch etc.

 

I'd take a Sterling-Rooney-Walcott front three, over Crouch-Defore any day of the week.

[mrmojorisin75]

 

 

I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow.

 

This was his third game man. You shouldn't be sending people off on 'reputation' after three fucking games.

[Guest firetotheworks]

 

 

I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow.

 

This was his third game man. You shouldn't be sending people off on 'reputation' after three fucking games.

 

Precisely, but he does and it's his his own fault.

[mrmojorisin75]

 

 

I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow.

 

This was his third game man. You shouldn't be sending people off on 'reputation' after three fucking games.

 

Precisely, but he does and it's his his own fault.

It's his own fault a ref who is considered universally shit by everyone sends him off on a 'reputation' gained in less than 2 full 90 minutes of football?

 

Nah.

[Guest firetotheworks]

 

 

I watched the highlights last night and I can't really see what the uproar is. Mitrovic has made a rod for his own back by being a knacker when he's come on as a sub and made it a fairly easy decision for the ref. Compare and contrast to Sissoko, who hasn't been a knacker and he gets a yellow.

 

This was his third game man. You shouldn't be sending people off on 'reputation' after three fucking games.

 

Precisely, but he does and it's his his own fault.

It's his own fault a ref who is considered universally shit by everyone sends him off on a 'reputation' gained in less than 2 full 90 minutes of football?

 

Nah.

 

I didn't say that his reputation was the reason that he was sent off, I said that it contributed to an already late, clumsy challenge. Marriner is shit, but I don't argue with him being sent off for that. You're talking about a player that in his first interview said that he liked to fight, and who in those less than 2 full 90 minutes of football, rightly got a yellow card within seconds of coming on for his debut and who then did the same thing again vs Swansea and rightly got a yellow again. Up until that point he'd rightly had two yellow cards in something like 20 minutes of football.

 

It was an 'orange card' imo and with that in mind I'm not surprised at all that he got sent off, It's something we've seen coming. I also think that if Sissoko and Mitrovic's fouls were swapped, you'd still have Sissoko with a yellow and Mitrovic with a red.

[triggs]

Sissoko's studs were down on the player's foot rather than the lower shin area as well like

[mrmojorisin75]

What does saying he likes to fight have to do with missing the ball in a genuine attempt and landing on the other guys leg?

 

He was sent off cause the ref is shite and knew he'd fucked up the penalty decision earlier, plus he'd probably had Arsenal nipping his head before the game about Mitrovic as well I'm sure.

 

Still makes it a terrible sending off. Never a red.

[Guest firetotheworks]

What does saying he likes to fight have to do with missing the ball in a genuine attempt and landing on the other guys leg?

 

He was sent off cause the ref is shite and knew he'd fucked up the penalty decision earlier, plus he'd probably had Arsenal nipping his head before the game about Mitrovic as well I'm sure.

 

Still makes it a terrible sending off. Never a red.

 

I've literally just explained why.

[Norseman]

It was a shit decision by a weak willed referee, probably influenced by a lot of things. It was not a red card challenge, it was barely a yellow. Correct decision would have been to give him a talking to, give him a chance to calm down IMO.

[Lush Vlad]

Surprised there hasn't been a poll TBH!  Split opinions all over the place.

 

I thought it was red at the time.  The more I look at it, the more I think it's a bit soft.  To coin a load of annoying ref phrases.  In this day and age.  Anything that can be seen as studs showing, a stamp, a rake etc.  Will usually result in a red card. 

 

I think it was mistimed and it nearly always looks worse in slow mo.  But he does then seem to stamp down, once he's hit that twat Coquelin's shin. 

[Wallsendmag]

Thing is if you're sending players off for that (eyes on the ball and stood in his foot) you will never see a match in the PL finish 11 v 11. Of course the cynic in me would suggest that had it been an Arsenal player on a Newcastle player a red card doesn't get shown.

[Guest firetotheworks]

I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around.

[mrmojorisin75]

I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around.

The difference between a fan shouting for a decision and a professional referee giving it should not need explaining.

[Guest firetotheworks]

I think you're all lying to yourselves if you think that you wouldn't be shouting for a red if it was the other way around.

The difference between a fan shouting for a decision and a professional referee giving it should not need explaining.

 

I mean as in you'd still be shouting on that it should have been a red now if it was the other way around. You need to take your NUFC goggles off imo.