TRon Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'm really uncertain about this one. Certainly Anita, Colback, and Tiote don't possess his long-range passing ability, and he has a decent shot from outside the area, although my understanding is that since being moved back into the centre of midfield, he has played around the same number of games and scored the same number of goals as Colback. He is big and physical, but Swansea fans seem critical of his defensive contribution, and he was being called out for laziness by Monk over a year ago. Is long passing a vital component missing from our attack? Would we be better instead with someone who presses and can play quick short balls through the midfield to Wijnaldum and Sissoko? My inclination is the latter. Maybe Saivet is tidy and energetic and can complement Shelvey well, but I really don't want to see some arrogant lug constantly playing Hollywood balls, taking long shots, and shouting at more hardworking teammates. I guess I'm cautiously pessimistic about the transfer. That will have to change. Can't say I've noticed it when he's played against us, but a central midfielder has to be prepared to put his foot in, and I'd be disappointed if we bought him if he's not prepared to roll his sleeves up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 He'll enjoy the new pastures, he clearly grew disillusioned and it seems like McClaren is going to make him a crucial part of the midfield and the way we play, which for any young player with ambition will be well received. I think he'll do well here, for some odd reason, and think he'll love playing in front of the crowd at St James Park Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Like a spooked ostrich in a house of mirrors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 He'll enjoy the new pastures, he clearly grew disillusioned and it seems like McClaren is going to make him a crucial part of the midfield and the way we play, which for any young player with ambition will be well received. I think he'll do well here, for some odd reason, and think he'll love playing in front of the crowd at St James Park My main worry is how long any new mentality lasts at NUFC, it's not the easiest place to make a fresh start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Like a spooked ostrich in a house of mirrors. :lol: I remember that, it's a brilliant article like. The lad was spot on about Pardew as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Can see his signing being the end of the line for De Jong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Can see his signing being the end of the line for De Jong Yeah De Jong is really capable of playing as a deep lying CM or even a CM for that fact. Why would it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Because he plays as a withdrawn forward. Could see him and Shelvey tripping over each other. Shelvey plus Mitrovic and Perez or two advanced wider players would make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'd send De Jong on loan personally. Wijnaldum, Perez and Thauvin can all play off the striker. He'd be better off getting some playing time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'd send De Jong on loan personally. Wijnaldum, Perez and Thauvin can all play off the striker. He'd be better off getting some playing time. Given the massive depth that our squad possesses and our great injury record I'd say that was daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hopefully we can start experimenting with our midfield a bit now, switch the likes of Shelvey, Sissoko, Thauvin, De Jong, Wiljnaldum, Perez around a bit and see what fits. If Saivet is a beast then you pretty much disregard every system we've been trying for the past 6 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'd send De Jong on loan personally. Wijnaldum, Perez and Thauvin can all play off the striker. He'd be better off getting some playing time. Given the massive depth that our squad possesses and our great injury record I'd say that was daft. Don't see how. It's the position we're most stocked with and he's currently behind Wijnaldum and Perez surely? Can't see how he's going to get on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Good range of passing it seems, even if its sometimes hit and miss: Have honestly never seen Colback do any of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Watching that video the guy does some incredibly good things man. Wow. Along with his passing he's really good at driving into space with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Is it even possible to put together a Colback highlight reel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Is it even possible to put together a Colback highlight reel? He's in Jonjo's highlights reel. Gets to within about 5 yards of him before the ball is gone and he's left staring at space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Is it even possible to put together a Colback highlight reel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'd send De Jong on loan personally. Wijnaldum, Perez and Thauvin can all play off the striker. He'd be better off getting some playing time. Given the massive depth that our squad possesses and our great injury record I'd say that was daft. Don't see how. It's the position we're most stocked with and he's currently behind Wijnaldum and Perez surely? Can't see how he's going to get on the pitch. We're an injury to Mitrovic or Perez away from him starting whilst Cisse is out. For whatever reason McClaren doesn't seem to think Thauvin is ready to start and Aarons is a mile away from starting. McClaren has shown before that if he's going to change things with one of the front two he rates De Jong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Good range of passing it seems, even if its sometimes hit Have honestly never seen Colback do any of that. 75% was basic passing. Couple of really good threaded through balls leading to a couple of goals. Hope I'm wrong about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Good range of passing it seems, even if its sometimes hit and miss: Have honestly never seen Colback do any of that. 75% was basic passing. Well there you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Forum rules, dudes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Moves forwards with the ball quickly, doesn't look scared to take people on and will actually attempt to put the ball around/through/over players. It's nothing ground breaking but I don't think it's any exaggeration to say that, in most of those situations, Colback dallies on the ball before playing the pass he should have made 4 seconds ago/turns and gives it to a defender/isn't even on the ball as he's standing next to their strikers for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Forum rules, dudes. Sorry boss, was just replying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Moves forwards with the ball quickly, doesn't look scared to take people on and will actually attempt to put the ball around/through/over players. It's nothing ground breaking but I don't think it's any exaggeration to say that, in most of those situations, Colback dallies on the ball before playing the pass he should have made 4 seconds ago/turns and gives it to a defender/isn't even on the ball as he's standing next to their strikers for some reason. He looks great on the ball, my only concern will be his work rate. Will he run off the ball or is he one of those players who only wakes up when the ball lands at his feet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Moves forwards with the ball quickly, doesn't look scared to take people on and will actually attempt to put the ball around/through/over players. It's nothing ground breaking but I don't think it's any exaggeration to say that, in most of those situations, Colback dallies on the ball before playing the pass he should have made 4 seconds ago/turns and gives it to a defender/isn't even on the ball as he's standing next to their strikers for some reason. He looks great on the ball, my only concern will be his work rate. Will he run off the ball or is he one of those players who only wakes up when the ball lands at his feet? Well let's hope the Matuidi comparisons ( even if it's just in energy levels) are true with Saivet then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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