Tiresias Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Am worried if he gets a long ban will cripple us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Tnh if it wasn't for the Leeds and Hull games coming up I'd not really car that much. We're a quality side and not just a one man team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Tnh if it wasn't for the Leeds and Hull games coming up I'd not really car that much. We're a quality side and not just a one man team. Shelvey walks this division and it'll be a blow, but we can win games without him. If he does get a ban, I'd bet on us still being top by the time he comes back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 massive blow, our best player, but we'll manage he drives us forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 When we expecting a decision? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I've spent the last half an hour trying to fix this thread but it was such a mess and full of such drivel and often unacceptable comments I've blanket deleted everything from the last few days. Keep your own views on the definition and merits of racism to yourself. If you can't do that then this thread will be locked again and you may be banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 When we expecting a decision? Chronicle reckon next week at the earliest with him requesting a personal hearing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 When we expecting a decision? Chronicle reckon next week at the earliest with him requesting a personal hearing. I would love to watch it. I bet he is pacing up and down, continually muttering under his breath and breaking into tearful meltdowns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Thoughts of racism or not but if the person who was 'offended' didn't even know it at the time although has one witness to recognise it against the person who supposedly aired their views with a witness to back up his view that he didn't, then this is going to be mighty hard to decide on. This is before the rights and wrongs of comments come into it and from the outside look like a straight forward case of tellings off and future conduct warnings. Without the full facts though although armed with the denial by Shelvey, this seems to me like a case that may drag through the legal channels if the FA revert to type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Ah man, where's all the racism chat gone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 He's possibly basing his defence on not knowing what cous cous is. Then when they say "It's reported you said blah blah fucking blah" and cous cous isn't mentioned that he'll say "Oh, that................................guilty" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Talk about the England squad please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Apparently he was being wound up about his Alopecia. If so, it should offer him a chance of getting off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Apparently he was being wound up about his Alopecia. If so, it should offer him a chance of getting off. No need to get his hair off though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 What I don’t understand is how there was no reaction in the slightest of the Wolves team mate who apparently heard the racist abuse! No confrontation or anything – if I heard some lad that I was playing with receiving racist abuse then I’d be straight on to whichever wanker was mouthing off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I cracked the case in the other thread, Shelvey was explaining that he'd had cous cous once. He'll be areet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Apparently he was being wound up about his Alopecia. If so, it should offer him a chance of getting off. Again. Not saying that it is right or wrong, with one form of abuse being worse than the other. But I don't think that would stand up would it? "Yeah. Well he kept taking the piss about my baldness, only I heard it, though. So I snapped at the end of the game and called him a *insert racist word here.*" I'm sure someone mentioned that the FA have something ridiculous, like a 90 odd percent guilty rate when they charge a player. From what we have been told, it seems to be one player's word against another. Which is a dangerous precedent to set, should he be found guilty. I'm sure, or at least hope. That we will get more of the details, whatever the verdict. It's all just speculation at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Obviously the two are incomparable but it's a bit hypocritical to mouth off and make fun someone for having a medical condition and then play the race card when said person snaps back. Not that I'm defending the use of racial abuse, I think both of them were abhorrent in this situation if Shelvey did lash back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 If Saiss did wind him up about being bald then played the race card, then he's just a cunt. But that's unlikely as he can hardly speak English apperantly. I doubt Shelvey's actually racist, but anyone can probably snap and say something insulting when wound up. It's what happens. People say something they know will offend to lash out. Of course that doesn't mean Shelvey is/isn't racist. Only he himself knows that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 If Saiss did wind him up about being bald then played the race card, then he's just a c***. But that's unlikely as he can hardly speak English apperantly. I doubt Shelvey's actually racist, but anyone can probably snap and say something insulting when wound up. It's what happens. People say something they know will offend to lash out. Of course that doesn't mean Shelvey is/isn't racist. Only he himself knows that. Apparently it was a teammate that overheard the comment, and then reported it after the game - not Saiss himself. The initial report suggested he hadn't even heard/understood what had been said to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 If Saiss did wind him up about being bald then played the race card, then he's just a c***. But that's unlikely as he can hardly speak English apperantly. I doubt Shelvey's actually racist, but anyone can probably snap and say something insulting when wound up. It's what happens. People say something they know will offend to lash out. Of course that doesn't mean Shelvey is/isn't racist. Only he himself knows that. Apparently it was a teammate that overheard the comment, and then reported it after the game - not Saiss himself. The initial report suggested he hadn't even heard/understood what had been said to him. I wouldn't put it past Shelvey tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Me neither, they're all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 does Saiss have the option to not press charges, or is it out of his hands since the accusation was made by his teammate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 does Saiss have the option to not press charges, or is it out of his hands since the accusation was made by his teammate? I think it's gone beyond that now, since it's gone public and become a massive issue may as well get it in the open and let the FA deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Whatever did or didn't happen, I'm assuming there's no audio or video evidence. If that is the case then it is the say so of the two Wolves' players against the say so of Shelvey and his witness. I don't see how the FA can find Shelvey guilty based on that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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