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Still think he's got something to offer a club on the up, personally. The issue with him is that he has shown to be very quick in downing tools when the going gets tough and therefore we should have no hesitation when it comes to upgrading, hopefully this summer.

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Thought he was passed round and bypassed with ease. 
 

Shelvey’s lack of mobility got dreadfully exposed yesterday. Joelinton is better without the ball. Willock started well and then got worse and kept wasting promising positions and misplacing passes. Which is the opposite way round for him! He is not the best in possession, either. Unless he is driving forward. 
 

As good as the midfield 3 have been. It still feels like we lack control in there. Still not sure who drops out, probably Willock. But I’d rather leave him in to support the attack and replace Shelvey. 

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Fair play to Howe and co. If its them (likely) pushing players into comments like this. Likewise Shelvey for doing it. Even if he was off the pace yesterday he was still better than pre-howe imo and actually running. The new manager purple patch hasn't worn off yet as it did with rafa and Bruce.

 

He will still be here next year but honestly if we can sell and replace we should. Even off the bench I don't know what he would offer unless it's in games with tons of time and space. In that scenario we would likely already have the game wrapped up. His stock will likely be as high as it ever wil be for selling too.

 

Hayden will be at a newly promoted side come August or West Brom if Bruce doesn't get sacked.

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15 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Always going to look bad against Brighton, their whole team can pass, move and control passes. 
 

I think they basically had a 6 man midfield with their fullbacks constantly pushed forward, we struggled to cope with it. 

 

 

 

 

Well that's always going to be the case when we play better teams tbh, because he's too slow to get anywhere near the best players. He'll have stinkers against all the CL teams as well. It's not his fault, he's done well recently, but that's because we have played teams in the bottom half of the table mostly.

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I'm desperate not to be conned, but has the penny finally dropped with him? 

 

He could easily have just moved past this but the fact he's holding himself accountable can only be a positive. It's important he now puts on a performance against Southampton, but I must admit it's refreshing to have him do this at a time in which we've won and not after a red card or something daft. 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Thiago said:

I'm desperate not to be conned, but has the penny finally dropped with him? 

 

He could easily have just moved past this but the fact he's holding himself accountable can only be a positive. It's important he now puts on a performance against Southampton, but I must admit it's refreshing to have him do this at a time in which we've won and not after a red card or something daft. 

 

 

 

He’s a player who thrives when the going is good, but can’t motivate himself when it’s not so good.

 

He’d never drag us out of the shit by the scruff of the neck, he’d be stood watching it happen around him.

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35 minutes ago, Thiago said:

I'm desperate not to be conned, but has the penny finally dropped with him? 

 

He could easily have just moved past this but the fact he's holding himself accountable can only be a positive. It's important he now puts on a performance against Southampton, but I must admit it's refreshing to have him do this at a time in which we've won and not after a red card or something daft. 

 

 


Think he’s the one who makes way for Bruno and he knows it.

 

Maybe Howes in his ear to motivate that it’s a World Cup year (no chance he goes) but he does seem to up his game every couple years when a “summer” tournament is on the cards.

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4 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

He’s a player who thrives when the going is good, but can’t motivate himself when it’s not so good.

 

He’d never drag us out of the shit by the scruff of the neck, he’d be stood watching it happen around him.

Yeah, I don't debate that, I mean more that now things are moving in a positive direction are we about to see some consistency. You could usually set your watch to our fortunes fading when his does. 

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He’s played far far worse and not said a word. If he’s turned a page in terms of attitude then fair enough.

 

It wasn’t his worst game at all yesterday, we didn’t really have much of the ball and he chased down their players as much as Willock did, created a nice chance over the top for ASM.

 

If he’s identified that he’s hitting that slump and is working to re-motivate himself, great, hopefully it doesn’t take months like it previously has. It’s not as much of a concern as it has been previously with Bruno waiting for his chance.

 

I’m aware that I sound like am being harsh on him but leopards don’t change their spots etc

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I actually thought that was one of his poorer games tbh but still levels above anything he's produced in the previous 2 years. 

 

I'm actually a fan of the fact he's actually applying himself for once and still think his selection in the team is merited based on his recent performances, but yesterday probably highlighted why we need someone who knows how to play that particular role and who won't be phased when playing against teams who dominate possesion like Brighton did. 

 

 

 

 

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