The College Dropout Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Sam would play him as a DM. I guarantee it. This is my fear. And you just know he'd be awesome there, and we'll all be p*ssed off about it. Sam has a history of this with both Abdoulaye Faye and Cheick Kouyate. You do realise this daft post implies Sam Allardyce is far more astute than Rafa Benitez? Hmmm ... I wouldn't say more astute. Just less adverse to putting players in positions they haven't necessarily featured much in previously. Don't think it's necessarily always a good thing either. He just tends to do it more. Even with Kirchoff last year, which worked out quite well, after he was tanking in central defence initially. The more cringe worthy examples of this kind of thing was him playing Samba upfront at times for aerial threat. I'm not holding it against Rafa for not giving it a go. Hey, he prefers to play individuals in positions they have mostly played previously, and that makes perfect sense. I just would hate to see Allardyce do it with Mbemba and have him shine in that position, only because I don't like to see fat Sam have success with anything. I want him to tank at everything, as that makes me very happy. Agree with this fully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Look, Mbemba was going to be off in the summer anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Long as there's no obligations to buy, I'm happy to proceed with this. Makes sense for everyone Especially if he has been following the ACON, which we know he has, because he's always looking for his next Samba, Kouyate, Kone, Abdoulaye Faye etc etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSC26 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 If we had an obligation to buy Townsend, but they had no obligation to buy Mbemba, then I'd consider it. Problem is, if Clark or Lascelles gets injured we only have Hanley as cover. Then I suppose Dummett could also come in and we'd have Lazaar / Haidara. But for me, Mbemba is the much better centre half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Do people really think Rafa rates Mbemba? He has no future at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 If we had an obligation to buy Townsend, but they had no obligation to buy Mbemba, then I'd consider it. Problem is, if Clark or Lascelles gets injured we only have Hanley as cover. Then I suppose Dummett could also come in and we'd have Lazaar / Haidara. But for me, Mbemba is the much better centre half. Dummett is much better as a CB than a LB imo. If we left ourselves short it is inevitable we'd have a defensive crisis. Happens virtually every season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Do people really think Rafa rates Mbemba? He has no future at the club. How's that? He got dropped after a shocker against Wolves and since then Clark/Lascelles have been a solid partnership. Daft changing a CB partnership that is working for the moment. I've no doubt if Clark/Lascelles had a few terrible performances in a row, Mbemba would be back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Do get the feeling Rafa doesn't rate him like. Shame because the Championship could have had a Coloccini like effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSC26 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 If we had an obligation to buy Townsend, but they had no obligation to buy Mbemba, then I'd consider it. Problem is, if Clark or Lascelles gets injured we only have Hanley as cover. Then I suppose Dummett could also come in and we'd have Lazaar / Haidara. But for me, Mbemba is the much better centre half. Dummett is much better as a CB than a LB imo. If we left ourselves short it is inevitable we'd have a defensive crisis. Happens virtually every season. Agree. Dummett isnt a left back at all for me, definitely a centre half. It seems to happen with centre backs and goalkeepers all the time with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Dummett's played about 3 games for us centre half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 For everyone that says people don't rate him just because he's not Ashley Cole or whatever attacking wise, you get the ones who say he's a centre-back and not a left-back, just because he's a crap attacking full-back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Wonder if Curtis Good is being included, with the view that Mbemba might be away. Rafa might want a closer look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Starting for Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Playing today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Sam would play him as a DM. I guarantee it. This is my fear. And you just know he'd be awesome there, and we'll all be pissed off about it. Sam has a history of this with both Abdoulaye Faye and Cheick Kouyate. Allardyce's expectations from a central midfielder are a lot different to Rafa's. Fat Sam basically just needs a physical tackler in there whereas Rafa would want a technically accomplished player in that position. I like Mbemba as a defender, but he's had enough bad games for me to understand why we would be prepared to let him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Sam would play him as a DM. I guarantee it. This is my fear. And you just know he'd be awesome there, and we'll all be pissed off about it. Sam has a history of this with both Abdoulaye Faye and Cheick Kouyate. Allardyce's expectations from a central midfielder are a lot different to Rafa's. Fat Sam basically just needs a physical tackler in there whereas Rafa would want a technically accomplished player in that position. I like Mbemba as a defender, but he's had enough bad games for me to understand why we would be prepared to let him go. Mbemba is technically accomplished Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Sam would play him as a DM. I guarantee it. This is my fear. And you just know he'd be awesome there, and we'll all be pissed off about it. Sam has a history of this with both Abdoulaye Faye and Cheick Kouyate. Allardyce's expectations from a central midfielder are a lot different to Rafa's. Fat Sam basically just needs a physical tackler in there whereas Rafa would want a technically accomplished player in that position. I like Mbemba as a defender, but he's had enough bad games for me to understand why we would be prepared to let him go. Mbemba is technically accomplished As a midfielder to premier league standards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Schlupp has done his hamstring. Bad timing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Schlupp has done his hamstring. Bad timing. Fuck. Fingers crossed they get Brady in, chance the deal could still go ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 He's not coming here, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Who did they play when they didn't sign Schlupp yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Who did they play when they didn't sign Schlupp yet? Who did they play when they didn't sign Schlupp yet? Zaha. He'll be back soon as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 SSN now mentioning the Townsend for Mbemba swap till the summer as an option we are looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Make it happen Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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