number9shirt Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Mbemba for Townsend would be very good swap even if loan deals. Dummett can play CB if we ever needed him there. ...and play Lazaar AND Yedlin at fullback? Dear God, think of the balance. Genuinely forgot that Lazaar was part of our squad. Straight up swap Mbemba for Townsend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Would be ok with Mbemba going.. but only if it's a loan and we got him back for sure. Still believe he's the best defender we have currently He isn't That's the thing about opinions - they can be different! Yours is wrong. Nah, yours is. See where this is going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Would be ok with Mbemba going.. but only if it's a loan and we got him back for sure. Still believe he's the best defender we have currently He isn't That's the thing about opinions - they can be different! Yours is wrong. Nah, yours is. See where this is going? http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/000/681/what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Man, we'd have to take that swap, but I really like Mbemba, and I hate the idea of fat Sam getting his grubby paws on him. As if Sam would play him I like Mbemba and think he's gotten a raw deal, but he's completely the opposite to what Allardyce looks for in a defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Sam would play him as a DM. I guarantee it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Sam would play him as a DM. I guarantee it. This is my fear. And you just know he'd be awesome there, and we'll all be pissed off about it. Sam has a history of this with both Abdoulaye Faye and Cheick Kouyate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Do the loan and when palace go down we will keep Townsend and get Mbemba back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Do the loan and when palace go down we will keep Townsend and get Mbemba back. As Mr Burns rubs his hands together................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Sam would play him as a DM. I guarantee it. This is my fear. And you just know he'd be awesome there, and we'll all be pissed off about it. Sam has a history of this with both Abdoulaye Faye and Cheick Kouyate. You do realise this daft post implies Sam Allardyce is far more astute than Rafa Benitez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Did Faye even play much in defensive midfield? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 A little bit when he first went to Bolton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Sam would play him as a DM. I guarantee it. This is my fear. And you just know he'd be awesome there, and we'll all be p*ssed off about it. Sam has a history of this with both Abdoulaye Faye and Cheick Kouyate. You do realise this daft post implies Sam Allardyce is far more astute than Rafa Benitez? Hmmm ... I wouldn't say more astute. Just less adverse to putting players in positions they haven't necessarily featured much in previously. Don't think it's necessarily always a good thing either. He just tends to do it more. Even with Kirchoff last year, which worked out quite well, after he was tanking in central defence initially. The more cringe worthy examples of this kind of thing was him playing Samba upfront at times for aerial threat. I'm not holding it against Rafa for not giving it a go. Hey, he prefers to play individuals in positions they have mostly played previously, and that makes perfect sense. I just would hate to see Allardyce do it with Mbemba and have him shine in that position, only because I don't like to see fat Sam have success with anything. I want him to tank at everything, as that makes me very happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Clearly both players in question aren't getting a game for their teams. Swap them. We do need Townsend more than Mbemba in our play at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Clearly both players in question aren't getting a game for their teams. Swap them. We do need Townsend more than Mbemba in our play at the moment. I do like Mbemba and it's probably harsh to say Rafa has written him off, it's just Clark and Lascelles have formed a pretty solid partnership at the back and it would be daft to keep swapping CB's every other game. At the moment, Lascelles would be the one that would have to drop out if Mbemba came in and even though Rafa left him out at the start of the season, I can't see him dropping our captain for an extended period when he hasn't made that many glaring errors. Good deal for both teams and both players imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Mbemba's been unlucky like. Had that stinker v Wolves and hasn't had a look in. I've personally been unconvinced by Lascelles this season. He's been an ok 6-7 out of 10 most games but I don't have the same faith as others in him. I'd like to see Clark & Mbemba for a run of games but Lascelles seems untouchable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Yeah, I agree. I think Clark has bailed Lascelles out quite a few times this season and his lack of acceleration/pace is something opposition teams seem to have been targeting recently. Probably still done enough to warrant his place in the team but I do think his reading of the game needs to improve a bit so that he isn't beaten for pace as often (which I guess will come from game time). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Mbemba's been unlucky like. Had that stinker v Wolves and hasn't had a look in. I've personally been unconvinced by Lascelles this season. He's been an ok 6-7 out of 10 most games but I don't have the same faith as others in him. I'd like to see Clark & Mbemba for a run of games but Lascelles seems untouchable. Agree with this, although I wouldn't be against Hanley getting a run of games alongside Clark if Mbemba does leave. Not quite sure what it is but Lascelles isn't a player I have full trust in and he's not been convincing for a while now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I'm surprised lascelles has had so many detractors lately. It's the first time in as long as I can remember where we've had an actual working centre back partnership. Clark has been far better than the majority of us were expecting but Lascelles does the ugly stuff very well. He's also a vocal captain which seems so odd given the white flag wavers we've had as captain in recent seasons. On topic I think it's a no brainer Mbemba for Townsend on loan. We've got ample cover at centre back and I can't see him getting a look in unless there's an injury crisis. I'm not sure how a deal like that could be done given he's away at the afcon though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I'm surprised lascelles has had so many detractors lately. It's the first time in as long as I can remember where we've had an actual working centre back partnership. Clark has been far better than the majority of us were expecting but Lascelles does the ugly stuff very well. He's also a vocal captain which seems so odd given the white flag wavers we've had as captain in recent seasons. On topic I think it's a no brainer Mbemba for Townsend on loan. We've got ample cover at centre back and I can't see him getting a look in unless there's an injury crisis. I'm not sure how a deal like that could be done given he's away at the afcon though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 is this still bumbling along? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I think Lascelles is a class defender in the making tbh. He looks like he could go a couple rounds with Anthony Joshua as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Wouldn't get a look in if his name was John Lassells. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Lascelles, Clark, Hanley, Dummett, Gamez and Hayden is more than enough to cover at centre half for four month or whatever. Well worth the risk to get Townsend back and ultimately secure our promotion. I like Mbemba, he's just not being used enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Long as there's no obligations to buy, I'm happy to proceed with this. Makes sense for everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Man, we'd have to take that swap, but I really like Mbemba, and I hate the idea of fat Sam getting his grubby paws on him. As if Sam would play him I like Mbemba and think he's gotten a raw deal, but he's completely the opposite to what Allardyce looks for in a defender. He'll play him in midfield imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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