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Let's just all agree that PAEDOPHILES ARE WRONG, aye?

 

One thing I will say is that I don't think KI is talking about you Lion of Gosforth. He's referring back to times when me KI, Deuce, B-More and co go radge at each other over PC shenanigans. I look forward to the next one.

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Whaaat? :lol: Hans definitely gets shit on for having the audacity to hear out less-than-"left-wing-correct" podcasters/lecturerers and not dismiss them out of hand. However he also cooks liver and onions on hotel radiators so I feel like it's deserved. :lol:

 

Christ, wish I knew more about the hotel radiators like  :lol:

 

Its a glorious tale

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Let's just all agree that PAEDOPHILES ARE WRONG, aye?

 

One thing I will say is that I don't think KI is talking about you Lion of Gosforth. He's referring back to times when me KI, Deuce, B-More and co go radge at each other over PC shenanigans. I look forward to the next one.

 

Clearer, confusion reigned because I was discussing it with you too, rationally I thought  :thup:

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Hang the paedos

 

Except when confronted with the situation in reality in which case your arse drops because pretending you know how you would react to a situation isn't actually representative of how you react to that situation in real life

 

I'd would put it odds on Semtex being Stockhome Syndromed into fucking joining in

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Hang the paedos

 

Except when confronted with the situation in reality in which case your arse drops because pretending you know how you would react to a situation isn't actually representative of how you react to that situation in real life

 

I'd would put it odds on Semtex being Stockhome Syndromed into fucking joining in

 

:lol: we were so close...

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It’s funny watching this debate because I have a different perspective: I work with children in a country that has recently had a Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Sexual Abuse (i.e. looking at the fucked up ways organisations dealt with sexual abuse).

 

In 2018, in Australia, if John Carver had acted the same way he did in England twenty five years ago, he would be guilty of a criminal act and liable for a six month jail term.

 

He was the Director of Excellence, and a member of staff reported an allegation of sexual misconduct against another member of staff. If he does not immediately pick up a phone and call the appropriate government authority, he is guilty of a crime.

 

It creates an environment of hypervigillance and over-reporting but better that than paedos touching kids.

 

Sorry to get all Atticus Finch, but we heard five years of stories exactly like this, of institutions dealing with sexual abuse on an ad hoc (and frequently incredibly dodgy) manner. Maybe England would benefit from something similar.

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It’s funny watching this debate because I have a different perspective: I work with children in a country that has recently had a Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Sexual Abuse (i.e. looking at the fucked up ways organisations dealt with sexual abuse).

 

In 2018, in Australia, if John Carver had acted the same way he did in England twenty five years ago, he would be guilty of a criminal act and liable for a six month jail term.

 

He was the Director of Excellence, and a member of staff reported an allegation of sexual misconduct against another member of staff. If he does not immediately pick up a phone and call the appropriate government authority, he is guilty of a crime.

 

It creates an environment of hypervigillance and over-reporting but better that than paedos touching kids.

 

Sorry to get all Atticus Finch, but we heard five years of stories exactly like this, of institutions dealing with sexual abuse on an ad hoc (and frequently incredibly dodgy) manner. Maybe England would benefit from something similar.

Things have moved on somewhat here as well.

 

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It’s funny watching this debate because I have a different perspective: I work with children in a country that has recently had a Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Sexual Abuse (i.e. looking at the fucked up ways organisations dealt with sexual abuse).

 

In 2018, in Australia, if John Carver had acted the same way he did in England twenty five years ago, he would be guilty of a criminal act and liable for a six month jail term.

 

He was the Director of Excellence, and a member of staff reported an allegation of sexual misconduct against another member of staff. If he does not immediately pick up a phone and call the appropriate government authority, he is guilty of a crime.

It creates an environment of hypervigillance and over-reporting but better that than paedos touching kids.

 

Sorry to get all Atticus Finch, but we heard five years of stories exactly like this, of institutions dealing with sexual abuse on an ad hoc (and frequently incredibly dodgy) manner. Maybe England would benefit from something similar.

 

He did. But for some reason the operator put him through to Sir Jimmy Saville, and they got talking about his charity work.

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Things have moved on somewhat here as well.

 

 

No doubt, although it seems there are some who think we’re being hard on Carver. I acknowledge it’s difficult to separate from what a private individual would do as opposed to a legally obligated professional, but Carver was a professional who allowed a coach he had been told was abusing children to keep his job for more than a year after the Ferris reporting to travel with and maintain close, unsupervised relationships with children.

 

But now I see my error - I have “Carver” and “professional” in the same sentence...

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Things have moved on somewhat here as well.

 

 

No doubt, although it seems there are some who think we’re being hard on Carver. I acknowledge it’s difficult to separate from what a private individual would do as opposed to a legally obligated professional, but Carver was a professional who allowed a coach he had been told was abusing children to keep his job for more than a year after the Ferris reporting to travel with and maintain close, unsupervised relationships with children.

 

But now I see my error - I have “Carver” and “professional” in the same sentence...

 

exactly...i would expect carver to handle something like that the same way a binman* or someone would handle it

 

 

 

 

*nothing against binmen obvs, just an example of someone who more than likely doesn't have management training and/or is as thick as fuck as well

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