Mick Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Quite interesting. Puts into context the fact that Newcastle have still made a profit in the latest set of figures, albeit quite small and mostly thanks to the fact that our debt is interest free "thanks" to Mike Ashley. If/ when we are promoted at the end of this season our position will be very strong while Sunderland have some incredibly serious issues to deal with should they be finally relegated. Shame - snigger! I'm not sure our position will be as strong as you think given we've possibly made a large loss this season and next season will need huge reinvestment. Isn't part of our overall poor financial position down to paying for players up front and then selling in installments? Charnley mentioned that we wouldn't see some of the profits from players sold for years, we create a problem by the way we pay for incoming transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Quite interesting. Puts into context the fact that Newcastle have still made a profit in the latest set of figures, albeit quite small and mostly thanks to the fact that our debt is interest free "thanks" to Mike Ashley. If/ when we are promoted at the end of this season our position will be very strong while Sunderland have some incredibly serious issues to deal with should they be finally relegated. Shame - snigger! I'm not sure our position will be as strong as you think given we've possibly made a large loss this season and next season will need huge reinvestment. Isn't part of our overall poor financial position down to paying for players up front and then selling in installments? Charnley mentioned that we wouldn't see some of the profits from players sold for years, we create a problem by the way we pay for incoming transfers. Paying all up-front gives us bargaining room to reduce prices... ... and allowing teams to pay in instalments over years enables us to demand higher total fees... ... is my simplistic FM understanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Their appeal for Larsson's red card has been rejected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Nothing wrong with 'aiming' for 17th when you're a newly promoted team, the problem arises when thats the aim every year totally agree it's starting again, the ambition was lost years ago, the man at the helm is still there so if we go up we need to get used to hanging on and scraping the odd wins, don't know if some of our fans can handle it at times i don't wanna go up somebody on total sport last week said we need to invest 200m in playing staff :lol: Probably right to be fair but that wont ever happen.we will sign 3-4 at best 10-15 m journey men or off casts and Rafa will be told on you go son, interesting to see how that goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Quite interesting. Puts into context the fact that Newcastle have still made a profit in the latest set of figures, albeit quite small and mostly thanks to the fact that our debt is interest free "thanks" to Mike Ashley. If/ when we are promoted at the end of this season our position will be very strong while Sunderland have some incredibly serious issues to deal with should they be finally relegated. Shame - snigger! I'm not sure our position will be as strong as you think given we've possibly made a large loss this season and next season will need huge reinvestment. Isn't part of our overall poor financial position down to paying for players up front and then selling in installments? Charnley mentioned that we wouldn't see some of the profits from players sold for years, we create a problem by the way we pay for incoming transfers. Paying all up-front gives us bargaining room to reduce prices... ... and allowing teams to pay in instalments over years enables us to demand higher total fees... ... is my simplistic FM understanding. It doesn't help the cash flow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I think someone explained the rationale was down to reducing the tax bill, which makes perfect sense. At some point though with all these installments coming in you are going to have an extremely healthy positive cash flow, 5 million here, 5 million there, when all said and done before we even sell anyone we could be 20 million up. I think it's a sound long term strategy to make money, whether it works will depend on if we can stay in the PL. It's really not a way in the short term at least to build a successful football team though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Their appeal for Larsson's red card has been rejected. Thought the red was harsh tbh but Larsson deserves the ban anyway just for being such a consistent shithouse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Their appeal for Larsson's red card has been rejected. Thought the red was harsh tbh but Larsson deserves the ban anyway just for being such a consistent shithouse. 100% this. Can't stand the twat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/rafa-benitez-has-a-sobering-message-for-relegated-teams-as-sunderland-edge-towards-the-championship.1351343/ the bitter bastards can't handle going down, they fucking deserve everything thing they get the tramps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Amid lots of vitriol and bigotry re a perfectly reasonable Rafa article (and a few sensible posts) lies this. Not remarkable in terms of jaw dropping stupidity, but there is something quite impressive about this line of reasoning, hats off to Adam 26 on managing to type a standout RTG post; there is tough competition: "If the mags celebrate our relegation in any form it just sums them up. The planes banners etc.. have been when we have been in the same league or based on games against them. Added to that we actually relegated them last season. They have had no bearing on our downfall this year, bar the guaranteed 4/6 points off them which at the minute still wouldn't keep us up." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 How dare we celebrate promotion with some, justified, hope and at the same time rejoice in there relegation and lack of it (hope). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Amid lots of vitriol and bigotry re a perfectly reasonable Rafa article (and a few sensible posts) lies this. Not remarkable in terms of jaw dropping stupidity, but there is something quite impressive about this line of reasoning, hats off to Adam 26 on managing to type a standout RTG post; there is tough competition: "If the mags celebrate our relegation in any form it just sums them up. The planes banners etc.. have been when we have been in the same league or based on games against them. Added to that we actually relegated them last season. They have had no bearing on our downfall this year, bar the guaranteed 4/6 points off them which at the minute still wouldn't keep us up." i read that, i can cast iron guarantee im having a fucking relegation party...........relegation is now in vogue, its good they reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 How dare we laugh at them for going down. They were absolutely spot on when we went down to the "pub league". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Why do they continue with the 'we relegated them' line. Bizarre little deprived men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Why do they continue with the 'we relegated them' line. Bizarre little deprived men. our time to laugh again let them have it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Why do they continue with the 'we relegated them' line. Bizarre little deprived men. Because they think we bite. I certainly don't, and don't know anyone who gives a fuck what they think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Why do they continue with the 'we relegated them' line. Bizarre little deprived men. We relegated them this season so it's all good. Ex-Newcastle player James Milner scored the 2nd and decisive goal in Liverpool's 2-0 win over the mackems back in November Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 All the derby defeats were a ploy to keep them up, knowing they'd still get weaker year after year. We deliberately took ourselves down to finally see them off for a long while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 All the derby defeats were a ploy to keep them up, knowing they'd still get weaker year after year. We deliberately took ourselves down to finally see them off for a long while. yep- this definitely happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Oviedo out for four weeks now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 All the derby defeats were a ploy to keep them up, knowing they'd still get weaker year after year. We deliberately took ourselves down to finally see them off for a long while. To flush a turd you youyrself must become a turd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Oviedo out for four weeks now Having seen him play I don't know if that's good news or bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Jordan "rabbit in the headlights" Pickford rules himself out of a move to NUFC. Hey Jordan...Try keeping a clean sheet in more than one attempt in 10 and try not to sh*t yourself so much against the big boys. Then you might get a call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 All the derby defeats were a ploy to keep them up, knowing they'd still get weaker year after year. We deliberately took ourselves down to finally see them off for a long while. To flush a turd you youyrself must become a turd. Worst fortune cookie ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Pickford will enjoy a couple of seasons in the Championship before being snapped up by West Bromwich Albion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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