cp40 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 So he is saying, getting relegated to the 3rd tier of English football might have a silver lining if Newcastle some how get relegated the following season and Sunderland win promotion back to the 2nd tier...Sunderland will have the momentum to beat a relegated Newcastle. :lol: Everything is just fine than. "if Newcastle somehow avoid relegation this season, next season will be an even bigger struggle, so is you lot do go down, you will surely win the 1st division. Now if we are relegated next season and you come up as champions into the Championship, who will the feel good factor be with, definately not us and this is just in a years time." What's happened to someones life that they have to convince themself of these fictional scenarios, and then share them with the world? It's like one of those 'empty chair' excercises a therapist might give to someone whose life is spiralling out of control. "So, if you could talk to yourself from a year in the future, what would he be saying to improve your outlook?" "Reyt, the mags are relegated..." every time things get shitter for them, they just dream up new better future scenarios. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Geordie's gave them the 'mackem' tag and with so, so little for them to cling onto in their sad lives they have now tried to convince themselves that it's 1-1 (FTM) now and they actually enslaved us with the term 'Mag'. However, like with so much of their 'facts' - not true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I was once called a maggie giblet by a mackem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 So The Sun, of all papers, comes up with a nothing article with no quotes (that has been denied by their club and journalists close to Quinn) and suddenly RTG becomes ITK Central. "This confirms the info I got from my broker mate from the City" / "This ties in with the message I received from my mate up high at the club" / "My sources tell me there's a lot going on behind the scenes atm".. Bless them, they're like little kids craving attention. At the moment, most of them are trying to convince themselves that there is a takeover, despite the denials. Their only argument to support this is - "There's no smoke without fire". And how is QUINNY still considered a LEGEND there? It's not because of his footballing qualities. Most of our forwards from the PL era have better goals-to-games ratio. I'm not talking Shearer, Beardsley, Cole or Ferdinand. Players like Ayoze, Oba Martins.. even fucking Mitro have scored more regularly than Quinn. Did they they somehow miss that it was Sir Niall who started the policy of living beyond their means, that got them where they are now? From memory, in his 5-6 seasons as chairman, they spent around 300 million on players, recouping probably 1/3 of that. Nobody in their right mind will buy them now. A League 1 club with at least 70 million secured debt. Not even administration could sort that out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 So The Sun, of all papers, comes up with a nothing article with no quotes (that has been denied by their club and journalists close to Quinn) and suddenly RTG becomes ITK Central. "This confirms the info I got from my broker mate from the City" / "This ties in with the message I received from my mate up high at the club" / "My sources tell me there's a lot going on behind the scenes atm".. Bless them, they're like little kids craving attention. At the moment, most of them are trying to convince themselves that there is a takeover, despite the denials. Their only argument to support this is - "There's no smoke without fire". And how is QUINNY still considered a LEGEND there? It's not because of his footballing qualities. Most of our forwards from the PL era have better goals-to-games ratio. I'm not talking Shearer, Beardsley, Cole or Ferdinand. Players like Ayoze, Oba Martins.. even fucking Mitro have scored more regularly than Quinn. Did they they somehow miss that it was Sir Niall who started the policy of living beyond their means, that got them where they are now? From memory, in his 5-6 seasons as chairman, they spent around 300 million on players, recouping probably 1/3 of that. Nobody in their right mind will buy them now. A League 1 club with at least 70 million secured debt. Not even administration could sort that out. Sounds exactly like us. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 So The Sun, of all papers, comes up with a nothing article with no quotes (that has been denied by their club and journalists close to Quinn) and suddenly RTG becomes ITK Central. "This confirms the info I got from my broker mate from the City" / "This ties in with the message I received from my mate up high at the club" / "My sources tell me there's a lot going on behind the scenes atm".. Bless them, they're like little kids craving attention. At the moment, most of them are trying to convince themselves that there is a takeover, despite the denials. Their only argument to support this is - "There's no smoke without fire". And how is QUINNY still considered a LEGEND there? It's not because of his footballing qualities. Most of our forwards from the PL era have better goals-to-games ratio. I'm not talking Shearer, Beardsley, Cole or Ferdinand. Players like Ayoze, Oba Martins.. even fucking Mitro have scored more regularly than Quinn. Did they they somehow miss that it was Sir Niall who started the policy of living beyond their means, that got them where they are now? From memory, in his 5-6 seasons as chairman, they spent around 300 million on players, recouping probably 1/3 of that. Nobody in their right mind will buy them now. A League 1 club with at least 70 million secured debt. Not even administration could sort that out. Sounds exactly like us. :lol: "My Dentist in Dubai" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I was once called a maggie giblet by a mackem. Havent laughed so hard in a while :cheesy: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/marco-again.1424134/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/marco-again.1424134/ My Da listens to it and told me about it on the phone last night so I knew they'd be fewwwwwwin' about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazy Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 yep some serious fewm going on over there. Thing is, he played for both clubs - why does he have to be blindly loyal to them? He explains he feels Sunderland are down either way so he would rather the points go to Derby. But no, they are annoyed that he has more Derby pictures in his hotel than Sunderland edit - just checked and he actually made more appearances for Derby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 yep some serious fewm going on over there. Thing is, he played for both clubs - why does he have to be blindly loyal to them? He explains he feels Sunderland are down either way so he would rather the points go to Derby. But no, they are annoyed that he has more Derby pictures in his hotel than Sunderland edit - just checked and he actually made more appearances for Derby And is from the East Midlands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazy Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/11304119/sunderland-set-for-relegation-why-the-culture-at-the-club-must-change "Sunderland are unique," former chairman Sir Bob Murray said back in 1999. At the time, that word unique had positive connotations when ascribed to Sunderland. The club were top of English football's second tier and had just drawn a crowd of 33,517 for a reserve game against Liverpool. "No one else in the country can touch us," Murray argued. "We want to be a national club, a household name, perhaps everyone's second favourite team." He was not far wrong. Sunderland had the third highest average attendance in English football that season behind Manchester United and Liverpool, drawing bigger crowds than reigning champions Arsenal - and they weren't even in the Premier League." really??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Yup. Although the likes of Arsenal were maxed out at 38k at Highbury. http://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-premier-league-1998-1999/1/ http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/sund.htm Also again the following season until we expanded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/11304119/sunderland-set-for-relegation-why-the-culture-at-the-club-must-change "Sunderland are unique," former chairman Sir Bob Murray said back in 1999. At the time, that word unique had positive connotations when ascribed to Sunderland. The club were top of English football's second tier and had just drawn a crowd of 33,517 for a reserve game against Liverpool. "No one else in the country can touch us," Murray argued. "We want to be a national club, a household name, perhaps everyone's second favourite team." He was not far wrong. Sunderland had the third highest average attendance in English football that season behind Manchester United and Liverpool, drawing bigger crowds than reigning champions Arsenal - and they weren't even in the Premier League." really??? In 1999 we had the stadium extension didn't we ? I think history has been rewritten slightly to fit an article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 That second link says they are averaging 41k in 2017. Well that's wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 It's the 2016/17 season. This season isn't on there yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'm surprised people don't know this stuff. I'm born 93 and even I knew they built SoS before we expanded SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'm surprised people don't know this stuff. I'm born 93' and even I knew they built SoS before we expanded SJP. It all just meldges in to one huge lump tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'm surprised people don't know this stuff. I'm born 93' and even I knew they built SoS before we expanded SJP. It all just meldges in to one huge lump tbh. It was like a competition. They opened it in 1997 at 40k, we expanded in 1998 from 36 to 52, so they expanded again up to nearly 49 in 2000. Hence their ground is a fair whack too big now, even when they were getting 40k. But it made sense for both clubs at the time if you look back at the trajectory of the teams and the crowds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Everyone's second favourite team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'm surprised people don't know this stuff. I'm born 93' and even I knew they built SoS before we expanded SJP. It all just meldges in to one huge lump tbh. It was like a competition. They opened it in 1997 at 40k, we expanded in 1998 from 36 to 52, so they expanded again up to nearly 49 in 2000. Hence their ground is a fair whack too big now, even when they were getting 40k. But it made sense for both clubs at the time if you look back at the trajectory of the teams and the crowds. Yeah true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Everyone's second favourite team They're the favourite team of any Champo opposition fans when it's time for their team to play them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'm surprised people don't know this stuff. I'm born 93' and even I knew they built SoS before we expanded SJP. It all just meldges in to one huge lump tbh. It was like a competition. They opened it in 1997 at 40k, we expanded in 1998 from 36 to 52, so they expanded again up to nearly 49 in 2000. Hence their ground is a fair whack too big now, even when they were getting 40k. But it made sense for both clubs at the time if you look back at the trajectory of the teams and the crowds. Yeah true. The first season they finished 7th with Quinn and Phillips it was actually difficult to get tickets for Sunderland games. So they expanded and tbf in the next 7th place season they averaged 47k. That fell to 44k and then 36k for the 19 point season. They overshot based on what was a wave at the time. But both clubs were ambitious and optimistic. It was a far better era for North East football, especially when you also consider Boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I'm surprised people don't know this stuff. I'm born 93' and even I knew they built SoS before we expanded SJP. It all just meldges in to one huge lump tbh. It was like a competition. They opened it in 1997 at 40k, we expanded in 1998 from 36 to 52, so they expanded again up to nearly 49 in 2000. Hence their ground is a fair whack too big now, even when they were getting 40k. But it made sense for both clubs at the time if you look back at the trajectory of the teams and the crowds. Yeah true. The first season they finished 7th with Quinn and Phillips it was actually difficult to get tickets for Sunderland games. So they expanded and tbf in the next 7th place season they averaged 47k. That fell to 44k and then 36k for the 19 point season. They overshot based on what was a wave at the time. But both clubs were ambitious and optimistic. It was a far better era for North East football, especially when you also consider Boro. Pretty sure that was when Murray came out with his infamous “one more seat than Newcastle” line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 If were talking about oversizing your ground in the north east, I'd love to know what the hell Darlington were thinking with that massive stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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