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Mr Logic

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He took the job because he will have been offered an absolutely enormous bonus for keeping us up.

 

 

Utterly wrong imo, nothing to do with the money. Why so cynical?

 

Steve McClaren turned us down three times.

 

You are cynical because McLaren turned us down three times? I don't get it. They're completely different people.

 

Yorkie, everything we've heard about Rafa indicates he came here because of two main things. His desire to return to England because of his family, and the desire for a 'project'. We tick so many boxes for him in so many ways. Every soundbyte that has come out of the man's mouth has told you these things.

 

Rafa has integrity. This means he's nothing like Ashley or Charnley, but more like Keegan or Sir Bobby. There's a need to practice some discernment in judgement.

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Rafa could get paid anywhere man, sure the money is good, that's all business to him - he'd not have joined this club if he didn't feel that 1) manage again in England and near(ish) Liverpool 2) the project of building something and 3) the fans, the ground, and the connection he'd instantly have with us.  He's a man who believes in himself and he's not running around chasing cash at this stage of his career IMO, or ever.

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Mick

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We've won one game since Rafa came here and his name was sang for a lot of the game, it's things like that which brought him here.  He knows our potential and he knows he'll be idolised here, its a win win for him.

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I'm starting to think if we do go down he'll take it personally as a professional and it will be his intention to 'right the wrong' so to speak. Trouble will likely come from Ashley's side or him getting another offer he can't refuse such as the Spain job.

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Rafa could get paid anywhere man, sure the money is good, that's all business to him - he'd not have joined this club if he didn't feel that 1) manage again in England and near(ish) Liverpool 2) the project of building something and 3) the fans, the ground, and the connection he'd instantly have with us.  He's a man who believes in himself and he's not running around chasing cash at this stage of his career IMO, or ever.

And number 4; the pay is very good. It's a factor, not the be all and end all but it's important. He wouldn't be here for 1 mill a year.

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Yeah, he got 7 million quid from Real as part of his severance package, which would reasonably have allowed him to put his feet up and not work for another year or so. Somewhat similar to his settlement from Inter in 2010, after which he didn't work for two years. Something that he didn't want to repeat as so much time out of the game would have probably killed his career after what happened at Real. Fact of the matter is Rafa would have had other offers, but he wouldn't have contemplated taking them just for the money. He realizes that there are only a handful of clubs in England which offer the potential that Newcastle possesses. I'm sure he wouldn't have accepted the Stoke or Swansea jobs if they had offered him more money than we are paying him.

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Mick

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online persona versus face to face interaction, well that's a toughie  :lol:

Liverpool fans are alright man, they get on just fine with Geordies in my experience

 

I've never understood the hate they've received by some people at times, they have a lot in common with us and our fans singing 'Sign on' is embarrassing.

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Ah, not judging or anything but seriously I would have thought the charity was spending more money than that.

 

Anyway, you know what I meant. Football managers like Benitez expect to earn about 3-4 million per annum, so that 7 million would have tided over nicely for a "year or so".  :lol:

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He seems like a sensible bloke, I'm almost certain he'll have enough cash and assets to see out the rest of his life without ever working a day again if he so desired. Thankfully he loves football.

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Oh absolutely, I'm sure. Bit of a rare breed in football.

 

Incidentally, Jerzy Dudek has come out with some colourful barbs about his time with Benitez, including how he felt the urge to punch Rafa after being refused a transfer: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ex-liverpool-boss-rafa-benitez-7805330

 

So, the player who wants to sell a book wanted to punch a manager in the face, I wonder why?  :lol:

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online persona versus face to face interaction, well that's a toughie  :lol:

Liverpool fans are alright man, they get on just fine with Geordies in my experience

 

I've never understood the hate they've received by some people at times, they have a lot in common with us and our fans singing 'Sign on' is embarrassing.

 

I lived in Liverpool for years. Superb city and top class people.

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I'm starting to think if we do go down he'll take it personally as a professional and it will be his intention to 'right the wrong' so to speak. Trouble will likely come from Ashley's side or him getting another offer he can't refuse such as the Spain job.

 

I hope you are right, i doubt it but none the less hopefully it's the case.

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I'm starting to think if we do go down he'll take it personally as a professional and it will be his intention to 'right the wrong' so to speak. Trouble will likely come from Ashley's side or him getting another offer he can't refuse such as the Spain job.

 

I hope you are right, i doubt it but none the less hopefully it's the case.

 

I don't know how the contract is written up but I imagine Ashley would ask him to work for fifty cents an hour or something once we're in the Championship and in cost-cutting mode.

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“Rafa will be welcomed back with open arms and rightly so,” said Dalglish.

 

“It isn’t just about the trophies that Rafa won as Liverpool manager, although they are testament enough to the service he provided to the club, it is also about his legacy and we’re still reaping the rewards of that today,” added the Scot.

 

“I was fortunate enough that Rafa invited me to help out at the academy in whatever way I could and I will always be eternally grateful for that.

 

“The benefits of the changes he put in place at that time are still being seen, you only have to look at some of the players in the first team squad to recognise that.

 

“Sheyi Ojo, Jordon Ibe and Jerome Sinclair were both brought in at that time while others including Jon Flanagan, Connor Randall, Ryan Kent, Cameron Brannagan, Ryan Kent and Jordan Rossiter had the benefit of working with the staff that Rafa put in place.

 

“All of those players have played for Liverpool’s first team this season having been given opportunities by Jurgen Klopp and I am sure that Jurgen will appreciate the contribution that Rafa made in that respect.

 

“The staff that Rafa brought into the Academy, especially Frank McParland, Rodolfo Borrell and Pep Segura, all made a positive difference and the work that they put in is bearing fruit and I’m sure it will continue to do so.

 

“So Rafa can rightly be proud of his contribution to Liverpool and I’ve no doubt he will be given the kind of welcome he deserves tomorrow.”

 

 

 

 

I am happy to see Kenny Dalglish acknowledge Rafa's contribution. In 2004, when he joined the LFC academy and youth team was not at all good. Loads of money was being spent on players who couldnt even have a career in the championship. Rafa completely restructured the academy, got in people like Borrell who was from the Barcelona youth team, appointed high quality technical coaches at the youth level, changed the emphasis from winning youth FA cups to producing players for the first team and we are starting to see the benefits of them. I mean we have not yet produced a class of 92 but there are plenty of decent players now coming through who are good enough to have a career in the premiership and play an important squad role.

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“Rafa will be welcomed back with open arms and rightly so,” said Dalglish.

 

“It isn’t just about the trophies that Rafa won as Liverpool manager, although they are testament enough to the service he provided to the club, it is also about his legacy and we’re still reaping the rewards of that today,” added the Scot.

 

“I was fortunate enough that Rafa invited me to help out at the academy in whatever way I could and I will always be eternally grateful for that.

 

“The benefits of the changes he put in place at that time are still being seen, you only have to look at some of the players in the first team squad to recognise that.

 

“Sheyi Ojo, Jordon Ibe and Jerome Sinclair were both brought in at that time while others including Jon Flanagan, Connor Randall, Ryan Kent, Cameron Brannagan, Ryan Kent and Jordan Rossiter had the benefit of working with the staff that Rafa put in place.

 

“All of those players have played for Liverpool’s first team this season having been given opportunities by Jurgen Klopp and I am sure that Jurgen will appreciate the contribution that Rafa made in that respect.

 

“The staff that Rafa brought into the Academy, especially Frank McParland, Rodolfo Borrell and Pep Segura, all made a positive difference and the work that they put in is bearing fruit and I’m sure it will continue to do so.

 

“So Rafa can rightly be proud of his contribution to Liverpool and I’ve no doubt he will be given the kind of welcome he deserves tomorrow.”

 

 

 

 

I am happy to see Kenny Dalglish acknowledge Rafa's contribution. In 2004, when he joined the LFC academy and youth team was not at all good. Loads of money was being spent on players who couldnt even have a career in the championship. Rafa completely restructured the academy, got in people like Borrell who was from the Barcelona youth team, appointed high quality technical coaches at the youth level, changed the emphasis from winning youth FA cups to producing players for the first team and we are starting to see the benefits of them. I mean we have not yet produced a class of 92 but there are plenty of decent players now coming through who are good enough to have a career in the premiership and play an important squad role.

 

Can we have the points for once when we need them?  You screwed us up 20 years ago and we don't want a repeat of that this time.

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online persona versus face to face interaction, well that's a toughie [emoji38]Liverpool fans are alright man, they get on just fine with Geordies in my experience

 

I've never understood the hate they've received by some people at times, they have a lot in common with us and our fans singing 'Sign on' is embarrassing.

It's the victim mentality I can't stand, however majority of scousers I have met have been canny.

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