Elliottman Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Wonder if he's lightened up at all since then? He does seem a serious character when asked about football but I don't get the impression anyone would hate playing for him. Interesting one. Carragher said pretty much the exact same about him, but it worked for them which was the main thing. Looking forward to seeing us play with a plan for a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Wonder if he's lightened up at all since then? He does seem a serious character when asked about football but I don't get the impression anyone would hate playing for him. Interesting one. I was thinking the same. Just by judging from the training pics and videos, that doesn't seem like it is still the case. I think he has mellowed even further as he has gotten older. His demeanour seems more friendly now, I think. Have to say, probably one of my only gripes with Rafa. Is how methodical and sometimes boring his football can be. What Bellamy is saying there kind of backs it up and I know former players and Liverpool fans say similar. That said, he is still light years ahead of anything we have had in the last however long. I also love how meticulous he is. I wonder what Carver used to say in team meetings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Wonder if he's lightened up at all since then? He does seem a serious character when asked about football but I don't get the impression anyone would hate playing for him. Interesting one. Bellamy mentions that there are no small sided training sessions and we have already seen that in the videos/photos this time around. So maybe he has? Also saw them in the Real Madrid videos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Wonder if he's lightened up at all since then? He does seem a serious character when asked about football but I don't get the impression anyone would hate playing for him. Interesting one. I was thinking the same. Just by judging from the training pics and videos, that doesn't seem like it is still the case. I think he has mellowed even further as he has gotten older. His demeanour seems more friendly now, I think. Have to say, probably one of my only gripes with Rafa. Is how methodical and sometimes boring his football can be. What Bellamy is saying there kind of backs it up and I know former players and Liverpool fans say similar. That said, he is still light years ahead of anything we have had in the last however long. I also love how meticulous he is. I wonder what Carver used to say in team meetings Didnt we have a Liverpool fan on here saying his teams were boring when they needed to be but also played some amazing football when they were comfortable in games? Something along those lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I've never been fond of managers that let you piss around all the time in training sessions. Bellamy describes it like an army drill but that's exactly how it should be imo. Fully professional and rafa makes sure everyone knows exactly what they need to do and who is boss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I'd be very surprised if Carver's team talks didn't include incentives of bacon sandwiches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkey Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 http://www.football365.com/news/rafa-benitez-the-catalyst-for-newcastle-change short but canny article on F365 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 The manager is the number one person at any club and sets the tone for everything. For me it's the Owners. Managers come and go in the main, Owners are there for usually a decade if not longer. Most clubs these days fortunes go up and down due to ownership. Owners/Board bring in the manager too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Wonder if he's lightened up at all since then? He does seem a serious character when asked about football but I don't get the impression anyone would hate playing for him. Interesting one. Doubt it. Main reason why he's a better manager for underdogs in a way rather than a Real Madrid. Personality and expression works better for your Ronaldo's. Djibrel Cisse should probably run where he is told. You find with Rafa, defensive players seem to really love him. Gerrard for example - doesn't seem as enthused by Rafa as you might expect. But Stevie G is a player with zero tactical discipline, so that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Interesting read from Bellamy there, I think we desperately need that kind of organisation to be honest though I do like the forwards to have some freedom, i've generally understood Benitez's method to be that teh whole team has a lot of discipline to allow one or two of his attackers a lot of freedom (like Gerrard at his peak) so it doesn't cost the team any defensive shape. This will be essential imo in the championship where cheaply conceeded draws will come back to haunt us in the the run in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joe Cool Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I'd be very surprised if Carver's team talks didn't include incentives of bacon sandwiches. I would have given 100% every game if that was the case. Of course, I wouldn't have played many games since I would have been a fatty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Wonder if he's lightened up at all since then? He does seem a serious character when asked about football but I don't get the impression anyone would hate playing for him. Interesting one. I was thinking the same. Just by judging from the training pics and videos, that doesn't seem like it is still the case. I think he has mellowed even further as he has gotten older. His demeanour seems more friendly now, I think. Have to say, probably one of my only gripes with Rafa. Is how methodical and sometimes boring his football can be. What Bellamy is saying there kind of backs it up and I know former players and Liverpool fans say similar. That said, he is still light years ahead of anything we have had in the last however long. I also love how meticulous he is. I wonder what Carver used to say in team meetings Depends on your interpretation of 'exciting' football really. Rafa's teams have never been about all-out offense but they do at least have a proclivity for keeping the ball on the deck, which has been neglected in our football over recent years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 We've had chancers, frauds, a grateful tramp and a sackless arsehole managing this great club recently, none of whom have had any semblance of tactical noise, game plan, or long term strategy for the club. Rafa mightn't be gung-ho, but he is exactly what this club needs. I struggle to think of many top class managers who give the type of freedom Bellamy is taking about to their players these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 It's just a starting point of being hard to beat first and foremost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Its about time modern day footballers realise that for the length of their short career they are paid more than the average person will earn in 10 lifetimes and one of the burdens that comes with this is that they are assests to be used as the club sees fit, its a small price to pay for been made a millionaire to do your hobby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 It's just a starting point of being hard to beat first and foremost. I think we will be very tough to beat, good starting point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 It's great because he's actually good at it rather than a dour negative manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 We just need to be clinical at the other end and punish teams, do that and we'll get the wins we need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Rafa can get us to win 1-0 in every game as far as I'm concerned, as long as it gets us back in the PL by May next year....'sexy football' got us a long way, didn't it..!?? Results are EVERYTHING this season..we can leave the gung-ho stuff until the last few games as long as we have the necessary points by then. Don't give a toss what the media/other clubs' fans say about it either... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I trust him wholeheartedly to get this cloob promote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I expect at least 100 goals like. If it's not as entertaining as the last time we were in the Championship, it's just not worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joe Cool Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 138 points this season AND a League Cup win is the absolute bare minimum for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Wonder if he's lightened up at all since then? He does seem a serious character when asked about football but I don't get the impression anyone would hate playing for him. Interesting one. I was thinking the same. Just by judging from the training pics and videos, that doesn't seem like it is still the case. I think he has mellowed even further as he has gotten older. His demeanour seems more friendly now, I think. Have to say, probably one of my only gripes with Rafa. Is how methodical and sometimes boring his football can be. What Bellamy is saying there kind of backs it up and I know former players and Liverpool fans say similar. That said, he is still light years ahead of anything we have had in the last however long. I also love how meticulous he is. I wonder what Carver used to say in team meetings I think it's when we were watching Liverpool vs some other PL team at the time, Rafa's style can be boring to watch, but when it's your own team it's great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Whilst I understand the thread title and its context can we change it back as to not disrespect our illustrious manager please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 138 points this season AND a League Cup win is the absolute bare minimum for me. 150 for me, we'll be given 12 extra points for being so good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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