Scoot Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Delighted to hear he's happy again. Lets keep it that way as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I'm not sure the atmosphere will be a problem this year. Last season lots of people expected us to basically steamroller every team we played at SJP based on our team, Rafa, 09/10 etc and obviously it didn't always play out that way. Won't be the same this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I'm not sure the atmosphere will be a problem this year. Last season lots of people expected us to basically steamroller every team we played at SJP based on our team, Rafa, 09/10 etc and obviously it didn't always play out that way. Won't be the same this season. Yeah I think it will be more forgiving as we are underdogs in every game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Atmosphere after we came back up last time was generally good n all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 As always it depends how the team performs. If we're doing well there's 50,000 creating a good atmosphere, if not it's 50,000 groans. Day-tripping, happy clappy wongaloids are the least of our worries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Ashleys Regime is responsible for the deterioration in the mood of the crowd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 More modern football tbh. Atmosphere last year was better than under Souness, Roeder etc. Winning matches makes the punters happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I think a lot of it is because of the football becoming about us being consumers rather than supporters. Obviously I'm not speaking about Rafa here, but claubs can't have it both ways. They can't treat people like customers and then expect them to also be supporters. If tickets were cheaper, people wouldn't have it in the back of their mind that they've paid £600+ to be served slop. It's exactly why Keegan had it right when he said that football is about entertainment for supporters and it's a two way thing. The fans will give its support as much as it can feel it can, but it's pretty uninspiring when you're watching people who are rich beyond all of your wildest dreams not deliver. It's a self-feeding problem as well, the worse it gets, the even worse it gets, but hopefully with Rafa things will improve and that growth will move in a positive direction with better football into better support, feeding into better football again. There are still those that'll moan at absolutely fucking anything though, and single players out early on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 As always it depends how the team performs. If we're doing well there's 50,000 creating a good atmosphere, if not it's 50,000 groans. Day-tripping, happy clappy wongaloids are the least of our worries. Has it always been this way? i honestly don't remember much moaning when i was younger ( at least in comparison to cheers) but maybe i'm romanticizing the good times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 More modern football tbh. Atmosphere last year was better than under Souness, Roeder etc. Winning matches makes the punters happy. I thought the atmosphere was shite last year at times. The worst I can remember, not in a "everyone whinging all the time" sense but people losing their rag over really minor things. Maybe it was an issue of expectations, but there were some games I was embarrassed by some of our supporters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Remembered this video about modern football atmospheres, this Scouse lad absolutely nails it. https://twitter.com/BenTheTim/status/824581719152095232 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Sad but true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 last year was apalling. It was either be ahead in 10 minutes, or the moans and groans started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Yeah there were definitely some bizarre views last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Sad but true. I believe the correct pronunciation is 'Sad buh trruuuuuuaaaaaaaGGGH' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 last year was apalling. It was either be ahead in 10 minutes, or the moans and groans started. I thought atmosphere was canny in home games vs Leeds, Birmingham in the league and Norwich. All the others were dead as far as I can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Most of the top 6 are Tortoise clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 last year was apalling. It was either be ahead in 10 minutes, or the moans and groans started. I thought atmosphere was canny in home games vs Leeds, Birmingham in the league and Norwich. All the others were dead as far as I can remember. What about Barnsley last game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 last year was apalling. It was either be ahead in 10 minutes, or the moans and groans started. I thought atmosphere was canny in home games vs Leeds, Birmingham in the league and Norwich. All the others were dead as far as I can remember. What about Barnsley last game? Aye fair enough, Barnsley as well. I probably have a shit recollection but only those 4 games mentioned stick out for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Delighted to hear he's happy again. Lets keep it that way as well. Reading the quotes it seems he's not that impressed with our transfer efforts but he's accepted the situation after resorting to a few veiled threats to the board to get some movement. He desperately wants to be here, that much is evident. It just might take a bit longer than we first thought to start aiming high again. Next season will be one of consolidation and I'm ok with that for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I just hope him wanting to be here, forming a bond with the fans, Isnt seen as some sort of dream ticket for Ashley- world class manager ,and Fans who's loyalty he can exploit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 TF podcast makes for an interesting listen. Basically we've not got that much money so the chances of us breaking the transfer record are slim to nil, missed out on first targets so it's needs must to fill gaps in squad now and everyone needs to calm the fuck down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 More modern football tbh. Atmosphere last year was better than under Souness, Roeder etc. Winning matches makes the punters happy. I thought the atmosphere was shite last year at times. The worst I can remember, not in a "everyone whinging all the time" sense but people losing their rag over really minor things. Maybe it was an issue of expectations, but there were some games I was embarrassed by some of our supporters. The I was in the corner last year and in L7 during the Souness years etc so difficult to compare like for like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 TF podcast makes for an interesting listen. Basically we've not got that much money so the chances of us breaking the transfer record are slim to nil, missed out on first targets so it's needs must to fill gaps in squad now and everyone needs to calm the fuck down. I can't decide whether I feel better or worse after listening to that TBH. So much depends on Rafa's ability to find players he finds acceptable and that can play in the PL but are also cheap. It's not easy but he seems to be doing OK so far. And almost no chance he'll leave, which is obviously class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would be interesting to know who the players we missed out on were. Abraham is the obvious one we all know about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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