Scoot Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Absolute fucken hell on when this bloke leaves because of the small minded muppets we have running this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Fully expect some soothing words from Rafa. This is what he does, cranks the pressure up on the board and then gets the fans on his side. It will all be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 You need to look past Rafa to the muppets above him. No way is this going to be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 He's not wrong like - we'll be in the bottom 5 with the squad we currently have and if Gayle gets injured we are in big trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Southampton have just agreed to pay £18m for a Juventus midfielder. Just to put into perspective what's going on at Newcastle and our attitude to the 'crazy' transfer market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I don't think he's going to walk but if he's sought after by a club which is inevitable given his proven quality, then we will struggle to keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Absolute fucken hell on when this bloke leaves because of the small minded muppets we have running this club. I think people will finally turn on the fat cunt and walk away from the club. I know I will, final straw if they fuck him off and he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I think nothing will change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Ah, this conversation again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I almost fell into the trap of going with my heart and getting my ticket back, at this point I'm feeling pretty glad i went with my head and stuck to my guns. Seeing Rafa manage Newcastle almost pulled me back butbat the end of the day, this sort of shit is going to cloud his time here and we're barely going to see the benefits of having him here before he's inevitably 'pushed'. I'll miss some great moments with him no doubt, but fuck it... Those moments will be minimal until we're sold and I expect Rafa will be long gone before then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4772610/Rafa-Benitez-admits-s-preparing-relegation-battle.html Title says it all. I love Rafa to bits, and I know the board are the problem here, but I'm getting a bit fed up with the negativity in all honesty. The PL starts this weekend, we should be being optimistic and looking forward to it, but because of all these sound bites and leaks from Rafa's camp everything feels doom and gloom. The players must surely pick up on that too. Obviously there are problems, but I'm not a fan of this "airing your dirty washing in public" thing. If the problems are big enough, walk away. If the problems are frustrating but you have no intention of walking away, don't put all that doubt into the supporters' minds. I'm not really sure what talking about it in the press really achieves, apart from getting in excuses early and giving the press plenty of fuel for the fires they love to create. The article isn't even that bad He's basically saying the big boys can buy the title and you don't need good managers ro do that and that to compete you need the right tools. Yeah, maybe there's a message being sent but it's not an article.about him spitting his dummy out and presenting doom and gloom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 It achieves him being more likely to get what he needs and was promised, while being honest with the fans. If you're the manager of a football club then there has to be an element of airing dirty laundry if you also want to speak to and be honest with the fans. I'm not sure what your preference would be? Keeping things in house so that the fans are in blissful ignorance, all while things are going to shit and can't be resolved behind the scenes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 What's happened so far this summer has been far from ideal, but is not the disaster some are hyping it to be. Benitez is a football nerd with a system that stands way above any individual players, exceptional talents aside. So I doubt he's that bothered about Tammy Abraham or Caballero, because he'll know a number of other players who could do a similar job or how to tweak the system to work with the other targets' talents. If the window closes with no new striker in and no new keeper, that will be a problem, but there are three weeks of brinksmanship to come and we'll just have to wait and see. The window should shut before the season starts, but it doesn't, so we end up with this situation where only certain teams get their new signings in early and give them a preseason. A club far more cashed up than us is going to buy Barkley and another Van Dijk, but those players are yet to move. I think the money for Sigurdsson is crazy, but if his job is to put a free kick on someone's head or in the top corner, he'll be more likely to come in cold and do that than Van Dijk is to excel straight away in a new partnership or defensive three in competitive matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Well then you don't get it. It's just been explained like, but apparently that's bullshit despite literally our last signing coming straight after he last aired his discontent. Coincidence maybe, but he's experienced enough to know the effect of doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 So, why is a manager of Rafas ability and reputation not walking away from the job if he's being dicked around and undermined? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 For all the same reasons he took the job/stayed. (aside from those assurances, obvs) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Its absolutely obvious how much he's been dicked about. The quotes make it clear. Same old s*** with this club man, absolute charlatans the lot of them. The whole lot is so disappointing really. If there was any time to back a manager, to do things properly, it would be now. Sadly, in keeping with the way we have been run for a decade now, it's clear that we're going to scrimp and scrape. If we have a good season with this squad, It'll be testament to Benitez really. I think we'll be hard to beat, he'll set us up well and we'll finish around mid table. All good and well, but as always, we have the potential for so much more with this set up. Potential that we will never realize under Ashley. I know this is a negative post considering a ball is yet to be kicked but fuck me, this summer doesn't half feel like an opportunity missed; whatever happens in the forthcoming season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Obvious. Because you try to resolve problems before giving up and walking away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 It's not quite Keegan they've not got some one buying players behind his back. I think Rafa has control of purchases the issue sounds like Charnley and Co aren't getting the job done. Penny pinching which is costing us to miss out on players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Hope Rafa stays and takes on Ashley and I think he would do that. He didn't lie down at Liverpool and he isn't afraid to confront the hiarachy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Absolute fucken hell on when this bloke leaves because of the small minded muppets we have running this club. It'll be sheer apathy from me if it does go tits up like. I'm not one to flounce, but if it all ends in tears again due to those running the club to disastrous effect, I'll be making an effort to sack the whole lot off. It feels like a last chance saloon with Ashley et al for me anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On the brink. To win the first game, get three points and enjoy it. Our idea has to be one game at a time. To avoid relegation is a priority and after that to go as high as we can. Rafa joked on the transfer window: The worst part is to buy without money. Now he talks about the frustrations of the window: One thing I’m not happy with is to start playing games with the transfer window open. I don’t like this part of it. Now the prices are crazy and you cannot control it. The top sides have so much money. You go for an average player and the price is still crazy. It’s not realistic. Pocchettino is always thinking about that (the 5-1). Don’t say too much about it! I think that you have to take the positives from that. The fans can replicate the atmosphere - there’s no doubt about that. They have progressed for a couple of years but we are a new team in the league. It will be a tough game because they have experience and a great manager. On signings: We need to move players out and to bring players in, to improve the levels of the team. We will try to find something if we can and to ensure the team will be better. On Lucas Perez (this was said as a joke): I was talking with Arsene yesterday. He said ‘If you have some money, let me know’. It’s too soon to talk about that! I didn’t say any more than that. Rafa Benitez on BT Sport NOW: It’s an exciting time. We were fighting last year to be back and everyone’s really excited. I think it’s where Newcastle belong. It’s massive for the fans. You know the Championship - Newcastle deserve to be in the Premier League. You don’t want to be in the Championship but we were. The feeling from the fans is that we have to stick together and be united, and we will be stronger. They were amazing at home and away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I'd personally prefer he kept internal problems internal, yeah. Same as in my job... we don't tell the customers when we have internal disagreements. Only just read this bit now and honestly can't believe that you'd use that example as a fan. Football fans may be being treated like customers, but I didn't expect a fan to reference it like that as if there's any comparison from how we approach things. From my perspective we're fans, from the perspective of scum like Ashley, we're customers. Rafa knows there's a difference, fuck PR and how it looks, his honesty is one of the reasons why he's loved. He's not like Pardew and McLaren who'll trot out the party lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFlat Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On the brink. To win the first game, get three points and enjoy it. Our idea has to be one game at a time. To avoid relegation is a priority and after that to go as high as we can. Rafa joked on the transfer window: The worst part is to buy without money. Now he talks about the frustrations of the window: One thing I’m not happy with is to start playing games with the transfer window open. I don’t like this part of it. Now the prices are crazy and you cannot control it. The top sides have so much money. You go for an average player and the price is still crazy. It’s not realistic. Pocchettino is always thinking about that (the 5-1). Don’t say too much about it! I think that you have to take the positives from that. The fans can replicate the atmosphere - there’s no doubt about that. They have progressed for a couple of years but we are a new team in the league. It will be a tough game because they have experience and a great manager. On signings: We need to move players out and to bring players in, to improve the levels of the team. We will try to find something if we can and to ensure the team will be better. On Lucas Perez (this was said as a joke): I was talking with Arsene yesterday. He said ‘If you have some money, let me know’. It’s too soon to talk about that! I didn’t say any more than that. Rafa Benitez on BT Sport NOW: It’s an exciting time. We were fighting last year to be back and everyone’s really excited. I think it’s where Newcastle belong. It’s massive for the fans. You know the Championship - Newcastle deserve to be in the Premier League. You don’t want to be in the Championship but we were. The feeling from the fans is that we have to stick together and be united, and we will be stronger. They were amazing at home and away. Good words. Seems a lot more relaxed than is portrayed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 He's talking live now - quotes here http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-news-transfers-live-13450339.amp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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