huss9 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Ritchie was going off either as a sub or a red card imo. think when he got his final warning off the ref it was due some horrendous overacting by the wolves player - it really was a nothing challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Yeah Ritchie had completely lost it in the 2nd half. Maybe if Atsu was brought on at HT to be on the other wing to take the pressure away from Ritchie then it might have made a difference 2nd half, but Ritchie looked like he was going to get sent off. Ayoze is really poor on the left wing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 shouldn't of changed a winning team unless i've missed injuries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I really don't think it's all about intensity, like. Thought I know what you mean. I just think - t'other night notwithstanding - we're far too susceptible to getting dragged into the whole compact, keep your shape mentality when actually against s*** like this, and let's be honest Wolves are utterly f***ing s***, we should playing a far more expansive form of football with wingers and strikers than teams can't negate by limiting time on the ball. hey, that's my drum your banging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I really don't think it's all about intensity, like. Thought I know what you mean. I just think - t'other night notwithstanding - we're far too susceptible to getting dragged into the whole compact, keep your shape mentality when actually against shit like this, and let's be honest Wolves are utterly fucking shit, we should playing a far more expansive form of football with wingers and strikers than teams can't negate by limiting time on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It's one game, we'll be fine. MOTM curse is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It's one game, we'll be fine. MOTM curse is all. it's 4 games out of 8., I'll include Bristol city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It's one game, we'll be fine. MOTM curse is all. it's 4 games out of 8., I'll include Bristol city. Alreet then http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160917/0608ec09708fc2ad76a3f578503bcb32.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Ritchie was going off either as a sub or a red card imo. Yip, he'd lost his discipline and the ref got Lascelles over and warned him he was going off if he didn't shut up and calm down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It's one game, we'll be fine. MOTM curse is all. it's 4 games out of 8., I'll include Bristol city. Alreet then http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160917/0608ec09708fc2ad76a3f578503bcb32.jpg Usually hate those but I like that one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Shelvey: "We never know the team until less than two hours before kick-off so you’re just still guessing." Is that after today's match? Unbelievable stuff to come out with in the press if that's even true. Wtf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louistoon Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Shelvey: "We never know the team until less than two hours before kick-off so you’re just still guessing." Is that after today's match? Unbelievable stuff to come out with in the press if that's even true. Wtf. Obviously not as it was posted at 8 AM this morning. No one was complaining about this after the QPR game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Shelvey: "We never know the team until less than two hours before kick-off so you’re just still guessing." Is that after today's match? Unbelievable stuff to come out with in the press if that's even true. Wtf. Are you for real? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 It's one game, we'll be fine. MOTM curse is all. it's 4 games out of 8., I'll include Bristol city. yeh include a solid away win, nice work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Remember Bellamy saying that in his autobiography. Said it was symptomatic of him not trusting his players iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Remember Bellamy saying that in his autobiography. Said it was symptomatic of him not trusting his players iirc. Tbf how many would trust Bellamy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Well, Bobby trusted him. But that isn't the point, none of the players find out his team until 2 hours or less before KO. It's just the way he is, anyway. It ties in with the rest of his style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 There's no way of doing it that won't bother some players, let them know day before some will just get in a strop from then. In a team with a settled starting 11 it may make sense to let know changes further in advance but I don't think that Benitez thinks of his team in the sense of a strongest 11 and then players coming in and out to patch up injuries etc, I think Benitez thinks of a plan then chops and changes the players to fit that. I can understand why it may be infuriating for players but Rafa is entitled to say the onus is on the players to get used to it, and that being dropped for a game doesn't mean you won't play the next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 There's not a single player in that squad who should be guaranteed a place so that's fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Well, Bobby trusted him. But that isn't the point, none of the players find out his team until 2 hours or less before KO. It's just the way he is, anyway. It ties in with the rest of his style. IMO, the longer he has with the squad, the less of an issue this will become. He wants all the squad to be able to play together interchangeably with similar effectiveness and cohesity. This will be shown up at its weakest early in his tenure, as fringe players get used more than they did before, and 'first teamers' rotated more. Everyone's on edge as it will be a big change, especially for our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Sooner he realises Perez is utter dogshit, the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Can't say i'm a massive fan of some of the things Rafa does with the team selections, yet it's won him multiple trophies in different countries. It's something we have to get used to, it's just him and why he's so successful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 The swings from him being a genius to his tactics and general philosophies on the game being seriously questioned and back again from match to match are both hilarious and quite sad. Not just in this thread, I mean across the forum. Signings, players, formations, the rotation policy; everything. By all accounts we were just as shit today as we were excellent on Tuesday. It's absolutely symptomatic of a team and entire fucking organisation that's still finding its feet with a revolutionised squad under a brand new manager and coaching staff, and an apparent complete change in approach to running a football club. This after literally years and years of deliberate lack of investment, almost 100% lack of ambition and suitably chronic underachievement. It's no coincidence IMO that we've not drawn any games so far. Even when we went down last time things were more stable than they were before Benitez came in for fuck's sake. Obviously nobody is beyond criticism when it's due but though I'm still very confident of promotion, turning this wretched ship around is going to take longer than nine matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 He's probably the most successful manager a lot of us will ever see at NUFC. He can shit in the centre circle for all I care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 There's no way of doing it that won't bother some players That's another thing, like. There's no managerial style that won't have an overall negative effect on certain personality types, especially in football. Benitez's polar opposite is probably someone like Ancelotti. He trusts his players on and off the field implicitly and allows them to express themselves as opposed to being part of a controlled and overall tactically restrictive setup. Obviously this works with the top players who can be trusted to maintain a professional and intelligent approach to the game but it would probably struggle with middle-of-the-road shit. Likewise, Benitez won't ever really have success at the top clubs because players at the very top of the game tend not to react well to absolute autocracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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