U2 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 You literally cannot judge any player, let alone a keeper after 1 game, but here we are Can think of plenty of examples of players (especially keepers) looking jittery early on after a transfer who go on to become solid first team players for years. DDG for Man Utd a prime example. Selz is growing in stature here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 There's so many keepers come across from abroad who start shaky. Courtois was another in his debut at Burnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Great goal that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Great finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I'm in Palermo when Torino are in town in October and I just want to watch Joe Hart play football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I'm in Palermo when Torino are in town in October and I just want to watch Joe Hart play football. He'll be dropped by then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Swansea were half interesting when they came up. Have now reached boring non-entity status. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 What a miss!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Weird how Swansea went 5 at the back today and West Ham did too against Man City a few weeks back, both failing miserably. We did it at Stoke and got pumped under Pardew. Van Gaal didn't have much success with it lwith Man Utd Has any manager had much success with it in the Prem? Think Martinez did it a few times with Wigan which won them a few games but most of the time it seems that teams don't really have a clue what they're doing in this division when it's implemented Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Valencia were 80/1 to go down at the start of the season. Regret not sticking a couple of quid on that now, they're a shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Bruce did it a bit with Hull. Watford are doing it this season I believe. Janmaat playing in the exact fashion he did for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Weird how Swansea went 5 at the back today and West Ham did too against Man City a few weeks back, both failing miserably. We did it at Stoke and got pumped under Pardew. Van Gaal didn't have much success with it lwith Man Utd Has any manager had much success with it in the Prem? Think Martinez did it a few times with Wigan which won them a few games but most of the time it seems that teams don't really have a clue what they're doing in this division when it's implemented On principle more defenders seems a terrible idea to me. It's control of the midfield where games are won and lost, protecting the defence should be the priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 What a miss!!!!!! Just saw this bladdy heck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Weird how Swansea went 5 at the back today and West Ham did too against Man City a few weeks back, both failing miserably. We did it at Stoke and got pumped under Pardew. Van Gaal didn't have much success with it lwith Man Utd Has any manager had much success with it in the Prem? Think Martinez did it a few times with Wigan which won them a few games but most of the time it seems that teams don't really have a clue what they're doing in this division when it's implemented On principle more defenders seems a terrible idea to me. It's control of the midfield where games are won and lost, protecting the defence should be the priority. Yeah, feels like managers put an extra defender in there to make them less likely to concede but it just results in confusion and less out balls. On the other hand, in other divisions and internationally a well drilled five/three at the back can be great to watch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 At the same time though, it's late on where teams are more desperate and more likely to start lumping the ball, so can make sense to stick an extra head in the centre. Like we did v Reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Yeah I understand it more from that perspective. Although Big Sam did it with Sunderland, put O'Shea on against us and Southampton to make it 5 at the back and it resulted in them losing 4 points. Just starting with it very rarely works in this division Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Pel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 1-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Gylfi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Such an odious club and set of players are Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 ahahahahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 So undeserved but hey ho it's Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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