Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 B. I don't think we'd ever get better than Rafa and as long as he's overlooking the football side, that's all I care about. Rafa has come at one of our lowest points in recent history, why wouldn't we get a top manager in the future? He's one of the best and not many are better. The odds are against us getting better. What about a manager who is slightly below Rafa's level but who has a bigger transfer budget because the stadium isn't covered in SD adverts and the ground is full. Who also has an academy that has adequate funding and a training ground that is somewhere close to the standard of our rivals. Not to mention a proper non-footballing side of the board that actually replaces people who leave and an owner who's primary aim is to win trophies. Isn't most of that what Rafa is looking for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 B. I don't think we'd ever get better than Rafa and as long as he's overlooking the football side, that's all I care about. Rafa has come at one of our lowest points in recent history, why wouldn't we get a top manager in the future? He's one of the best and not many are better. The odds are against us getting better. What about a manager who is slightly below Rafa's level but who has a bigger transfer budget because the stadium isn't covered in SD adverts and the ground is full. Who also has an academy that has adequate funding and a training ground that is somewhere close to the standard of our rivals. Not to mention a proper non-footballing side of the board that actually replaces people who leave and an owner who's primary aim is to win trophies. Isn't most of that what Rafa is looking for? If he manages to get Ashley to rip down the SD adverts then fair play to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Ashley out above all else - the root cause of everything that has went wrong with the club over the past nine years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Really difficult question this. Rafa in would provide short term benefit, but it's hard to know if it would pan out as long term benefit. As soon as the club starts acting liking a dick Rafa will move on. I guess you have to opt for B, but right now my head is in a spin over Rafa. It feels like such a rare occurrence to have a manager who is clearly one of the best in the world and with plenty of years ahead of him. I just don't want him to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Rafa in, a new owner could appoint s***. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 B. I don't think we'd ever get better than Rafa and as long as he's overlooking the football side, that's all I care about. Rafa has come at one of our lowest points in recent history, why wouldn't we get a top manager in the future? He's one of the best and not many are better. The odds are against us getting better. What about a manager who is slightly below Rafa's level but who has a bigger transfer budget because the stadium isn't covered in SD adverts and the ground is full. Who also has an academy that has adequate funding and a training ground that is somewhere close to the standard of our rivals. Not to mention a proper non-footballing side of the board that actually replaces people who leave and an owner who's primary aim is to win trophies. Isn't most of that what Rafa is looking for? If he manages to get Ashley to rip down the SD adverts then fair play to him. Wake up man. Arsenal and Barcelona are sporting shirts branding Arab airline flights. Man city too probably. We got Ashley because he saw an opportunity to cash in on the low income market. We get Wonga instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 B. I don't think we'd ever get better than Rafa and as long as he's overlooking the football side, that's all I care about. Rafa has come at one of our lowest points in recent history, why wouldn't we get a top manager in the future? He's one of the best and not many are better. The odds are against us getting better. What about a manager who is slightly below Rafa's level but who has a bigger transfer budget because the stadium isn't covered in SD adverts and the ground is full. Who also has an academy that has adequate funding and a training ground that is somewhere close to the standard of our rivals. Not to mention a proper non-footballing side of the board that actually replaces people who leave and an owner who's primary aim is to win trophies. Isn't most of that what Rafa is looking for? If he manages to get Ashley to rip down the SD adverts then fair play to him. Wake up man. Arsenal and Barcelona are sporting shirts branding Arab airline flights. Man city too probably. We got Ashley because he saw an opportunity to cash in on the low income market. We get Wonga instead. Wat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 If he manages to get Ashley to rip down the SD adverts then fair play to him. I didn't say he wanted all of that, I said most. Anyway, one of the choices is hypothetical, the other is almost reality and a few weeks ago beyond most of our dreams so it's an easy choice for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 If he manages to get Ashley to rip down the SD adverts then fair play to him. I didn't say he wanted all of that, I said most. Anyway, one of the choices is hypothetical, the other is almost reality and a few weeks ago beyond most of our dreams so it's an easy choice for me. It's meant to be treated as a purely hypothetical question like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 If he manages to get Ashley to rip down the SD adverts then fair play to him. I didn't say he wanted all of that, I said most. Anyway, one of the choices is hypothetical, the other is almost reality and a few weeks ago beyond most of our dreams so it's an easy choice for me. Both answers are part of the same question, of course it's hypothetical but because it's hypothetical we actually get to choose. It's not about what's realistic, it's about what you truly want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 charnley and Carr sticking around is not a good sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 It's meant to be treated as a purely hypothetical question like. One isn't hypothetical, it's a strong possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Both answers are part of the same question, of course it's hypothetical but because it's hypothetical we actually get to choose. It's not about what's realistic, it's about what you truly want. I'm shit at hypothetical questions and always have been, I hate them so don't usually answer them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 B. I don't think we'd ever get better than Rafa and as long as he's overlooking the football side, that's all I care about. Rafa has come at one of our lowest points in recent history, why wouldn't we get a top manager in the future? He's one of the best and not many are better. The odds are against us getting better. What about a manager who is slightly below Rafa's level but who has a bigger transfer budget because the stadium isn't covered in SD adverts and the ground is full. Who also has an academy that has adequate funding and a training ground that is somewhere close to the standard of our rivals. Not to mention a proper non-footballing side of the board that actually replaces people who leave and an owner who's primary aim is to win trophies. Isn't most of that what Rafa is looking for? If he manages to get Ashley to rip down the SD adverts then fair play to him. Wake up man. Arsenal and Barcelona are sporting shirts branding Arab airline flights. Man city too probably. We got Ashley because he saw an opportunity to cash in on the low income market. We get Wonga instead. Wat? Arsenal - Fly Emirates Barcelona - Qatar Airways Man City - Etihad Airways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Both answers are part of the same question, of course it's hypothetical but because it's hypothetical we actually get to choose. It's not about what's realistic, it's about what you truly want. I'm s*** at hypothetical questions and always have been, I hate them so don't usually answer them. Fair enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 B. I don't think we'd ever get better than Rafa and as long as he's overlooking the football side, that's all I care about. Rafa has come at one of our lowest points in recent history, why wouldn't we get a top manager in the future? He's one of the best and not many are better. The odds are against us getting better. What about a manager who is slightly below Rafa's level but who has a bigger transfer budget because the stadium isn't covered in SD adverts and the ground is full. Who also has an academy that has adequate funding and a training ground that is somewhere close to the standard of our rivals. Not to mention a proper non-footballing side of the board that actually replaces people who leave and an owner who's primary aim is to win trophies. Isn't most of that what Rafa is looking for? If he manages to get Ashley to rip down the SD adverts then fair play to him. Wake up man. Arsenal and Barcelona are sporting shirts branding Arab airline flights. Man city too probably. We got Ashley because he saw an opportunity to cash in on the low income market. We get Wonga instead. Wat? Arsenal - Fly Emirates Barcelona - Qatar Airways Man City - Etihad Airways I get that, I just don't know what you were getting at? That we should accept SD adverts or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I'd rather keep Rafa. Knowing our luck we would lose Rafa, Ashley sells to Randy Lerner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Keep Rafa , highly unlikely we would get another manager of his quality . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Sigh. Nothing is ever going to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 A. Every day of the fucking week. Even if we keep Rafa I'm pretty sure Ashley will fuck that up eventually. The man is poison and I doubt we'll ever amount to much with him as owner. This club has incredible potential in the right hands. I'd take the gamble and go for a new owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 A. People ignored the possibility that once our club is back on track Ashley will fuck up again and Rafa will leave everything will back to square one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 A. Though in my mind A also includes Ashley being skull fucked by a silverback gorilla. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 B. I don't think we'd ever get better than Rafa and as long as he's overlooking the football side, that's all I care about. Rafa has come at one of our lowest points in recent history, why wouldn't we get a top manager in the future? He's one of the best and not many are better. The odds are against us getting better. What about a manager who is slightly below Rafa's level but who has a bigger transfer budget because the stadium isn't covered in SD adverts and the ground is full. Who also has an academy that has adequate funding and a training ground that is somewhere close to the standard of our rivals. Not to mention a proper non-footballing side of the board that actually replaces people who leave and an owner who's primary aim is to win trophies. Isn't most of that what Rafa is looking for? If he manages to get Ashley to rip down the SD adverts then fair play to him. Wake up man. Arsenal and Barcelona are sporting shirts branding Arab airline flights. Man city too probably. We got Ashley because he saw an opportunity to cash in on the low income market. We get Wonga instead. Wat? Arsenal - Fly Emirates Barcelona - Qatar Airways Man City - Etihad Airways I get that, I just don't know what you were getting at? That we should accept SD adverts or what? i don't understand this either, those are 3 of the best airlines in the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Far be it from me to try and interpret the mind of a lunatic but I think maybe he was saying that we would have got Ryanair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 A. People ignored the possibility that once our club is back on track Ashley will fuck up again and Rafa will leave everything will back to square one If Rafa stays he'll just end up leaving in a couple of years when Ashley breaks all his promises, just like Keegan did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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