Mole_Toonfan Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Isn't Lucas a perma-cripple though? No he isn't: suffered a couple of bad injuries; other than that he's not an Aarons or SDJ type of injured player Really? Thought he was always f***ed. Hardly remember him under Rogers for example. Probably me. If memory serves it was more because Rodgers preferred Allen etc etc rather than him being injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Assuming Rafa wants him, and could talk him in to dropping a division, if we got Lucas Leiva in I think we would definitely see Tiote away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Never liked Lucas at all for Liverpool, but that's because I didn't think he was good enough for where they wanted to be. He's miles ahead of the Championship though, would be a great signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Still can't see it, Hayden was bought for DM/CM position, along with Saivet, Colback, Tiote, Shelvey, Anita. We're not exactly short in that area. I think the papers are just guessing, i think we just want cash up front and Liverpool want to pay in installments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Still can't see it, Hayden was bought for DM/CM position, along with Saivet, Colback, Tiote, Shelvey, Anita. We're not exactly short in that area. I think the papers are just guessing, i think we just want cash up front and Liverpool want to pay in installments. I agree, if we need a midfielder it would more of the attacking/creative variety than defensive tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Or he wants defensive midfielders to allow the front 4 to roam. Could do with a player that can score some goals from there other than Shelvey so we have a few options. I think Tiote will go so we need experience in there and would make sense from that point of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Or he wants defensive midfielders to allow the front 4 to roam. Could do with a player that can score some goals from there other than Shelvey so we have a few options. I think Tiote will go so we need experience in there and would make sense from that point of view. I'm not convinced we want Lucas, makes sense if it's the scenario you put forward though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Still can't see it, Hayden was bought for DM/CM position, along with Saivet, Colback, Tiote, Shelvey, Anita. We're not exactly short in that area. I think the papers are just guessing, i think we just want cash up front and Liverpool want to pay in installments. I agree, if we need a midfielder it would more of the attacking/creative variety than defensive tbh. Agreed but Rafa does like his two holding midfielders, i think we have enough of those but as nufc4eva says it could be if Tiote goes. Personally i think like you it's attacking midfielders we will want, especially if Gini and Sissoko go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Chris Wilder confirms #sufc have rejected an offer for Che Adams. Believed to have come from a Championship club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Or he wants defensive midfielders to allow the front 4 to roam. Could do with a player that can score some goals from there other than Shelvey so we have a few options. I think Tiote will go so we need experience in there and would make sense from that point of view. One of those players has to at least have the passing range and vision to initiate attacks though, otherwise you'll see what happens with England is a load of forwards on the pitch but we can't create because nobody is keeping the ball or helping set up that front 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 If Tiote goes, Colback is shite and Hayden has started something like 8 league game in his career. It's not inconceivable he is a target. I really like Lucas, would be a class above just about every player in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Yorkshire Post reporting that Sheffield United turned down a 7 figure bid from a Championship club for Che Adams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Or he wants defensive midfielders to allow the front 4 to roam. Could do with a player that can score some goals from there other than Shelvey so we have a few options. I think Tiote will go so we need experience in there and would make sense from that point of view. One of those players has to at least have the passing range and vision to initiate attacks though, otherwise you'll see what happens with England is a load of forwards on the pitch but we can't create because nobody is keeping the ball or helping set up that front 4. True and I think we do need that, someone that can switch play and join in attacks is required, however assuming Tiote goes we don't have anyone experienced or good enough to protect the back 4 and sometimes you could understand trying to have a functional defence minded midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Sky Sports: Newcastle *are still wanting* to take West Ham midfielder Reece Oxford on a season long loan-deal *still want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Reports back that we want Lucas as part of the Wijnaldum deal - The Telegraph Sounds sensible. Lack of a decent midfield anchorman cost us dear last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Potential captain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Ryder reckons Hanley deal close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Lucas is or at least was a very important cog in their machine when they were doing well a few years ago. Screams of a Nicky Butt type signing tbh, same age to if I remember correctly. C Trust in Rafa but my own personal opinion, if he's coming here as a captain, that will set Lascelles back a bit.. who I think is the long term option as opposed to the short term fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Sky Sports: Newcastle *are still wanting* to take West Ham midfielder Reece Oxford on a season long loan-deal *still want Drives me mad as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Sky Sports: Newcastle *are still wanting* to take West Ham midfielder Reece Oxford on a season long loan-deal *still want Drives me mad as well! I only copied and pasted it from twitter! Sorry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Lucas is or at least was a very important cog in their machine when they were doing well a few years ago. Screams of a Nicky Butt type signing tbh, same age to if I remember correctly. C Trust in Rafa but my own personal opinion, if he's coming here as a captain, that will set Lascelles back a bit.. who I think is the long term option as opposed to the short term fix. Of course it won't set Lascelles back Think expectations of him are a bit OTT. He had a good half dozen game spell against a lot of sides playing for nowt. He stepped up to the plate but we still need senior heads and Lucas' experience is prime captain material Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 According to the Mag, German media are reporting an interest in Ivica Olic http://www.themag.co.uk/2016/07/newcastle-interest-ivica-olic-reports-newcastle-united/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Bloody hell, can he still walk unaided? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Looks like Rafa's idea of wanting two teams that can win the championship is coming off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Having Lucas massively decreases the chances of Colback playing so I'm all for it. Lucas patrolling nowhere beyond the halfway line, winning it and giving it to Shelvey I could see working very well. Frees up Tiote to fack orf too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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