Newcastle United transfer rumours in the press

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Sounds quite similar to McCarthy but about £20m cheaper.

Nah McCarthy is actually a very good midfielder defensively. He tends to hide when his team is in possession though, never seems to want a pass, even though he is decent technically so perhaps that could be worked on. Clucas from what I saw wasn't great defensively but was always making himself an option for a pass off the ball

 

Eamonn Dunphy in the Irish media called him a waste of space and all but suggested he'd conspired to get his manager (Martinez) sacked.

 

Even if there's a snippet of truth in that I'd stay well clear

 

Eamonn Dunphy makes a living from talking and writing s*** I absolutely love him but he really doesn't have a clue. Martinez loved McCarthy

 

This. Martinez's Everton with McCarthy in it were excellent by and large. It was only when he was out injured for a while that the wheels come off.

 

Everton fans I speak to say the reason the wheels fell off was because Martinez was useless and couldn't organise a defence for love or money.  McCarthy is a good player though.

 

They weren't saying that when McCarthy was in the team and they were fighting for top four. It was when he got injured in his second season and they were defensively more open that the criticism was levelled at Martinez. Fairly so to some level but I seem to recall he lost Baines and Jagielka to various medium term injuries whilst Mori's was adjusting to life in the league also which compounded his demise there.

 

This is total rubbish tbh mate.

 

Martinez is a terrible manager, ridiculously stubborn and arrogant in sticking with the same rigid tactics that do not work. Completely incapable of coaching a defence or organising a team. He didn't even practice attacking or defending set pieces in training, which was blatantly obvious on the pitch. His first season was a success because he inherited Moyes' defence which was rock solid and had been one of the best in the league for donkeys years. Within 12 months he had completely ruined it and we were a farce at the back. His downfall was nothing to do with McCarthy or injuries.

 

As for McCarthy, he's not much of a passer and doesn't get forward enough when the game opens up for him but he can be excellent at breaking up play and has a good engine. He was really good for us in his first season. Second and third seasons he was rubbish whenever he played between injuries. Last season, he struggled with injuries again but was good when he played. Seemed to regain his form under Koeman. He'd be good to keep as a back-up/rotation player but is probably too valuable not to cash in on and he earns about 50k a week.

 

Something Newcastle fans will have to get used to if you sign McCarthy is the whole Irish circus. O'Neill and Keane have rushed him back from injury two or three times now, causing him to break down again. When Koeman complains about this, they then slag Everton off in the media. The good thing about selling him would be never having to read another article about the latest nonsense from that pair of pricks.

When you say rubbish you mean non of this happened?

 

Everton fans happy with Martinez 1st season not the 2nd.

Played with attacking flair to achieve 5th.

McCarthy along with that back four was vital to Martinez's team that first season and they were missed when injured.

 

I never said it was Martinez's defence. I never said he could organise one or adapt without key players missing hence stating the criticism of him was justified at times.

 

I never said McCarthy was a great forward passer. You agreed he was good first season and not the same since injury.

 

Starting to think you meant to reply to someone else

 

 

First two paragraphs replying to you. Second two just talking generally about McCarthy, maybe would have been better in a separate post tbf.

 

Defending Martinez's abilities and making McCarthy's form out to be instrumental in his downfall is what I was calling rubbish. Because it is.

 

Obviously fans were happy when we finished 5th We thought Martinez was a good manager because of that. Within 6 months it was apparent that he wasn't and had got lucky inheriting a great defence. He tweaked Moyes' team to make us a bit more attacking in the first season and it worked well (went from 6th to 5th). Following seasons we had the worst joke of a defence in the league, despite having plenty of good players. We didn't even play decent football going forward in those seasons either. It was boring tippy tappy sideways stuff that went nowhere for the most part. There were no mitigating circumstances for Martinez's failure. It was purely down to his arrogant delusions that he was another Guardiola and that defending doesn't matter.

[TRon]

Has this already been posted??

 

“He (James McCarthy) is a good player but we now have a lot of them at this club.

 

“We have been linked with around 100 players but he is not our first target at the moment.”

 

Who's quote is it?

 

Rafa's from his interview...

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-james-mccarthy-everton-13352565

 

Interesting, not like Rafa to comment on players we are looking at. If it's true then I wonder who our first target is? Be a bit of a comedown for McCarthy to be second choice to Clucas.

[Paully]

Has this already been posted??

 

“He (James McCarthy) is a good player but we now have a lot of them at this club.

 

“We have been linked with around 100 players but he is not our first target at the moment.”

 

Who's quote is it?

 

Rafa's from his interview...

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-james-mccarthy-everton-13352565

 

Interesting, not like Rafa to comment on players we are looking at. If it's true then I wonder who our first target is? Be a bit of a comedown for McCarthy to be second choice to Clucas.

 

We've been linked with a certain player he managed at Real Madrid but I can't see it!

[LFEE]

 

 

Sounds quite similar to McCarthy but about £20m cheaper.

Nah McCarthy is actually a very good midfielder defensively. He tends to hide when his team is in possession though, never seems to want a pass, even though he is decent technically so perhaps that could be worked on. Clucas from what I saw wasn't great defensively but was always making himself an option for a pass off the ball

 

Eamonn Dunphy in the Irish media called him a waste of space and all but suggested he'd conspired to get his manager (Martinez) sacked.

 

Even if there's a snippet of truth in that I'd stay well clear

 

Eamonn Dunphy makes a living from talking and writing s*** I absolutely love him but he really doesn't have a clue. Martinez loved McCarthy

 

This. Martinez's Everton with McCarthy in it were excellent by and large. It was only when he was out injured for a while that the wheels come off.

 

Everton fans I speak to say the reason the wheels fell off was because Martinez was useless and couldn't organise a defence for love or money.  McCarthy is a good player though.

 

They weren't saying that when McCarthy was in the team and they were fighting for top four. It was when he got injured in his second season and they were defensively more open that the criticism was levelled at Martinez. Fairly so to some level but I seem to recall he lost Baines and Jagielka to various medium term injuries whilst Mori's was adjusting to life in the league also which compounded his demise there.

 

This is total rubbish tbh mate.

 

Martinez is a terrible manager, ridiculously stubborn and arrogant in sticking with the same rigid tactics that do not work. Completely incapable of coaching a defence or organising a team. He didn't even practice attacking or defending set pieces in training, which was blatantly obvious on the pitch. His first season was a success because he inherited Moyes' defence which was rock solid and had been one of the best in the league for donkeys years. Within 12 months he had completely ruined it and we were a farce at the back. His downfall was nothing to do with McCarthy or injuries.

 

As for McCarthy, he's not much of a passer and doesn't get forward enough when the game opens up for him but he can be excellent at breaking up play and has a good engine. He was really good for us in his first season. Second and third seasons he was rubbish whenever he played between injuries. Last season, he struggled with injuries again but was good when he played. Seemed to regain his form under Koeman. He'd be good to keep as a back-up/rotation player but is probably too valuable not to cash in on and he earns about 50k a week.

 

Something Newcastle fans will have to get used to if you sign McCarthy is the whole Irish circus. O'Neill and Keane have rushed him back from injury two or three times now, causing him to break down again. When Koeman complains about this, they then slag Everton off in the media. The good thing about selling him would be never having to read another article about the latest nonsense from that pair of pricks.

When you say rubbish you mean non of this happened?

 

Everton fans happy with Martinez 1st season not the 2nd.

Played with attacking flair to achieve 5th.

McCarthy along with that back four was vital to Martinez's team that first season and they were missed when injured.

 

I never said it was Martinez's defence. I never said he could organise one or adapt without key players missing hence stating the criticism of him was justified at times.

 

I never said McCarthy was a great forward passer. You agreed he was good first season and not the same since injury.

 

Starting to think you meant to reply to someone else

 

 

First two paragraphs replying to you. Second two just talking generally about McCarthy, maybe would have been better in a separate post tbf.

 

Defending Martinez's abilities and making McCarthy's form out to be instrumental in his downfall is what I was calling rubbish. Because it is.

 

Obviously fans were happy when we finished 5th We thought Martinez was a good manager because of that. Within 6 months it was apparent that he wasn't and had got lucky inheriting a great defence. He tweaked Moyes' team to make us a bit more attacking in the first season and it worked well (went from 6th to 5th). Following seasons we had the worst joke of a defence in the league, despite having plenty of good players. We didn't even play decent football going forward in those seasons either. It was boring tippy tappy sideways stuff that went nowhere for the most part. There were no mitigating circumstances for Martinez's failure. It was purely down to his arrogant delusions that he was another Guardiola and that defending doesn't matter.

 

I thought as much

 

I wasn't trying to defend his abilities as I agree with his particular defensive shortfalls. I was highlighting how when certain key players are missing it threw his attacking tactics out of balance in particular McCarthy who the discussion is about. He tinkered because he never could replace him and every time he came back it was too early and never fit or possibly even the same player which yourself alluded to.

 

Somehow you've wanted to make this more about Martinez tenure at Everton which I wasn't. I just think McCarthy played a big part of the success of his first season as manager and if he along with the back four had of stayed fit I think you would've had a better second season then you ended up having. So I'm not endorsing Martinez. I'm simply saying the cristiscm was too far the other way as had the plaudits been the previous season.

 

In many respects you could see parallels with Ranieri and Leicester.

 

Built on back 4 foundations of previous regime. Inserted Kante. Stuck to a formula.

 

Next season back 4 picked up injuries. Sold Kante. Tinkered.

 

Anyway... Rafa looks to have his eyes elsewhere

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-james-mccarthy-everton-13352565

 

 

[TRon]

Has this already been posted??

 

“He (James McCarthy) is a good player but we now have a lot of them at this club.

 

“We have been linked with around 100 players but he is not our first target at the moment.”

 

Who's quote is it?

 

Rafa's from his interview...

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-james-mccarthy-everton-13352565

 

Interesting, not like Rafa to comment on players we are looking at. If it's true then I wonder who our first target is? Be a bit of a comedown for McCarthy to be second choice to Clucas.

 

We've been linked with a certain player he managed at Real Madrid but I can't see it!

 

Who's that then? I must have missed it.

[Sean]

Has this already been posted??

 

“He (James McCarthy) is a good player but we now have a lot of them at this club.

 

“We have been linked with around 100 players but he is not our first target at the moment.”

 

Who's quote is it?

 

Rafa's from his interview...

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-james-mccarthy-everton-13352565

 

Interesting, not like Rafa to comment on players we are looking at. If it's true then I wonder who our first target is? Be a bit of a comedown for McCarthy to be second choice to Clucas.

 

We've been linked with a certain player he managed at Real Madrid but I can't see it!

 

Who's that then? I must have missed it.

 

Kovacic I believe...we can dream eh.

[sbnufc]

Has this already been posted??

 

“He (James McCarthy) is a good player but we now have a lot of them at this club.

 

“We have been linked with around 100 players but he is not our first target at the moment.”

 

Who's quote is it?

 

Rafa's from his interview...

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-james-mccarthy-everton-13352565

 

Interesting, not like Rafa to comment on players we are looking at. If it's true then I wonder who our first target is? Be a bit of a comedown for McCarthy to be second choice to Clucas.

 

We've been linked with a certain player he managed at Real Madrid but I can't see it!

 

Who's that then? I must have missed it.

Ronaldo

[TRon]

Has this already been posted??

 

“He (James McCarthy) is a good player but we now have a lot of them at this club.

 

“We have been linked with around 100 players but he is not our first target at the moment.”

 

Who's quote is it?

 

Rafa's from his interview...

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-james-mccarthy-everton-13352565

 

Interesting, not like Rafa to comment on players we are looking at. If it's true then I wonder who our first target is? Be a bit of a comedown for McCarthy to be second choice to Clucas.

 

We've been linked with a certain player he managed at Real Madrid but I can't see it!

 

Who's that then? I must have missed it.

 

Kovacic I believe...we can dream eh.

 

Probably why I missed it.

[Guest neesy111]

Zero chance we are getting Kovacic.

[Guest chopey]

Zero chance we are getting Kovacic.

 

I wouldnt say 0% but its pretty low

[buzza]

Unreal, Rafa spunk the 70M on him, super class at defending and splitting up play and class at dictating rythym.

Top Top player, never understood how casemeiro keeps him out the team...

[Flip]

Unreal, Rafa spunk the 70M on him, super class at defending and splitting up play and class at dictating rythym.

Top Top player, never understood how casemeiro keeps him out the team...

 

Because Casemiro is there to break up play and just play it simple, which he is one of the worlds best at and much much better than Kovacic at. He doesn't need to dictate anything as Kroos and Modric does that. 

[Astroblack]

Casemeiro just has more energy. He covers more ground.

[Village Idiot]

Still remember all the stick Rafa got for starting Casemiro instead of any combo of Kroos/Modric/James/Isco...

[mighty__mag]

How come nobody has gone in for that ante coric yet? Was he not supposed to be on many sides radar including us.

[nemtizz]

Aye but Zidane does it and he's a genius. Rafa should have stuck by his guns when picking the team against Barca.

[Village Idiot]

Aye but Zidane does it and he's a genius. Rafa should have stuck by his guns when picking the team against Barca.

 

Benítez never had the standing Zidane has to weather the toxic media politics in Madrid. He was under pressure to not appear defensive at a home game against Barça and paid the price. We cut through them like butter that day.

[sempuki]

A new number 10 would be nice. Hope we are after one and not relying on Perez, Diame or even SDJ.

[LFEE]

Tim Vickery saying Diego Rolan would be a good fit for us. Rated him quite highly also.

[afar]

Keeper seems Rafa's next priority , which is whacked if you ask me, or maybe that's all a smoke screen.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Keeper seems Rafa's next priority , which is whacked if you ask me, or maybe that's all a smoke screen.

 

I think it's fair enough really. We need another striker and a number 10, but if they fell through we at least have Gayle and Perez who at least has a season of playing well. Our goalkeeping situation is pretty shit whoever's played at the moment, so getting someone solid and dependable in would be great.

[afar]

Keeper seems Rafa's next priority , which is whacked if you ask me, or maybe that's all a smoke screen.

 

I think it's fair enough really. We need another striker and a number 10, but if they fell through we at least have Gayle and Perez who at least has a season of playing well. Our goalkeeping situation is pretty s*** whoever's played at the moment, so getting someone solid and dependable in would be great.

 

It's shit because he's making it that way in my view. Krul is a perfectly capable number 1 in the PL, he's proved it over a number of years, Darlow is a fine back up, hell we've even been able to rely on Elliot in the past and we have Woodman of course who personally I think we should seriously consider pushing through. It's nowhere near a bad situation, unlike the clear weakness in CM, number 10 and up front, those should be the focus areas not wasting time chasing small improvements to the GK.

[nemtizz]

http://www.football-espana.net/65225/everton-will-trigger-viera-clause

 

The former Valencia and Rayo Vallecano player rejoined his hometown club in 2014 and has netted 24 league goals in three campaigns, with Newcastle United also said to be interested.

 

Ryan will be jizzing himself. Doubt there's much in this, though.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Because Krul was good once doesn't mean he is anymore, he was starting to perform worse and worse before Rafa and Rafa has had him out on loan for a reason.

 

Relying on players like Elliot is why we were relegated to begin with and Darlow is not "fine" as weak as we are at the positions you mentioned none of our goalkeepers are as good as Perez( who i personally don't rate that highly), Gayle and Shelvey.

 

Buying a GK is absolutely a priority, i can pretty much guarantee that come January we'll be talking about how we need a keeper if we don't get one. Luckily Rafa has the foresight to see that before it becomes a problem.

[Sean]

Keeper seems Rafa's next priority , which is whacked if you ask me, or maybe that's all a smoke screen.

 

I think it's fair enough really. We need another striker and a number 10, but if they fell through we at least have Gayle and Perez who at least has a season of playing well. Our goalkeeping situation is pretty s*** whoever's played at the moment, so getting someone solid and dependable in would be great.

 

It's shit because he's making it that way in my view. Krul is a perfectly capable number 1 in the PL, he's proved it over a number of years, Darlow is a fine back up, hell we've even been able to rely on Elliot in the past and we have Woodman of course who personally I think we should seriously consider pushing through. It's nowhere near a bad situation, unlike the clear weakness in CM, number 10 and up front, those should be the focus areas not wasting time chasing small improvements to the GK.

 

Krul's really not as good as some people seem to think...as a shot stopper he can be OK however he doesn't command his area well, organise his defence, he's not very good dealing with crosses, etc etc. It's not a massive surprise that theres no Premier League teams looking to sign him up.

 

It seems pretty clear those traits above are qualities that Rafa values in a GK. Reina would be perfect in that respect, although seems unlikely still.