ponsaelius Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Sorry but "we never produce any youngsters" is the absolute worst argument to justify selling one that's coming through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Even if he is available for a free in a year, I'd rather we actually tried to convince him to stay than receive the fee for him, it sets an absolutely shit show of a message to everyone at the club. £6m is going to affect us fuck all this season when we are going to generate upwards of £150m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Even if he is available for a free in a year, I'd rather we actually tried to convince him to stay than receive the fee. Is there evidence we haven't tried to convince him? Devil's advocate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Sorry but "we never produce any youngsters" is the absolute worst argument to justify selling one that's coming through Ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Even if he is available for a free in a year, I'd rather we actually tried to convince him to stay than receive the fee. Is there evidence we haven't tried to convince him? Devil's advocate. Well, keep trying. Remember when Bernard wanted to leave and had joined West Ham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Even if he is available for a free in a year, I'd rather we actually tried to convince him to stay than receive the fee. Is there evidence we haven't tried to convince him? Devil's advocate. Guessing he means over the next year, after refusing to sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Apart from the fact Everton want him, we all know nowt and are just guessing. Ha that was stating the bleeding obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Even if he is available for a free in a year, I'd rather we actually tried to convince him to stay than receive the fee. Is there evidence we haven't tried to convince him? Devil's advocate. Guessing he means over the next year, after refusing to sell him. Ah right Aye, misread. That route in all likelihood wouldn't work out for either club or player like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Because of his age, he is only on scholarship terms, rather than a professional contract with the Magpies. This means he is free to leave for a compensation fee, but more importantly, is free to talk with other clubs as he hasn’t signed professional terms at Newcastle. The Magpies have made Gibson a contract offer but he is free to leave for Everton, should he decide to. From the chron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Gibson and Daryl's fee almost pays for Jacob Murphy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Because of his age, he is only on scholarship terms, rather than a professional contract with the Magpies. This means he is free to leave for a compensation fee, but more importantly, is free to talk with other clubs as he hasn’t signed professional terms at Newcastle. The Magpies have made Gibson a contract offer but he is free to leave for Everton, should he decide to. From the chron. Ah yes, should remember this from FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 He wants to leave, we keep him for a year and get nothing or he leaves now for £6m? Don't really see what people are annoyed about in regards to us accepting the fee? Everton are a more stable club with more money, better prospects, an academy with a recent history of bringing through young players and mosh importantly of all, a manager who has a track record of giving youngsters a proper chance. I can't remember Rafa bringing through too many youngsters at other clubs in fairness but may be forgetting some obvious examples. The frustrating aspect of all this isn't the fact we're selling him, it's the fact our club is in the position where it's a no brainer for the player to leave. If Ashley ever needed a kick up the arse about how good facilities, coaches and academies are beneficial in the long run, this is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 It is a really good fee, but a depressing scenario What everyone is forgetting is the lad is refusing to sign pro forms with us if I'm following the story correctly therefore it's somewhat out our hands. He can leave whenever he likes on his current deal. He's had his head turned and is obviously not interested in staying. Not like we're out publically flaunting our youngsters for sale. Wanted to keep him, he's decided he's going so we can either agree a fee (with good sell on/additional clauses) or wait for the FA to award us £10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 He wants to leave, we keep him for a year and get nothing or he leaves now for £6m? Don't really see what people are annoyed about in regards to us accepting the fee? Everton are a more stable club with more money, better prospects, an academy with a recent history of bringing through young players and mosh importantly of all, a manager who has a track record of giving youngsters a proper chance. I can't remember Rafa bringing through too many youngsters at other clubs in fairness but may be forgetting some obvious examples. The frustrating aspect of all this isn't the fact we're selling him, it's the fact our club is in the position where it's a no brainer for the player to leave. If Ashley ever needed a kick up the arse about how good facilities, coaches and academies are beneficial in the long run, this is it. Sanity... be gone you're not welcome here. Flapping only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 He wants to leave, we keep him for a year and get nothing or he leaves now for £6m? Don't really see what people are annoyed about in regards to us accepting the fee? Everton are a more stable club with more money, better prospects, an academy with a recent history of bringing through young players and mosh importantly of all, a manager who has a track record of giving youngsters a proper chance. I can't remember Rafa bringing through too many youngsters at other clubs in fairness but may be forgetting some obvious examples. The frustrating aspect of all this isn't the fact we're selling him, it's the fact our club is in the position where it's a no brainer for the player to leave. If Ashley ever needed a kick up the arse about how good facilities, coaches and academies are beneficial in the long run, this is it. Or how about we try to convince him staying at NUFC would be best for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Because of his age, he is only on scholarship terms, rather than a professional contract with the Magpies. This means he is free to leave for a compensation fee, but more importantly, is free to talk with other clubs as he hasn’t signed professional terms at Newcastle. The Magpies have made Gibson a contract offer but he is free to leave for Everton, should he decide to. From the chron. Fair enough then. Still a shame that he apparently doesn't want to stay though, whatever the reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Then why are accepting the fee then and instead of going to tribunal? Most tribunal fees go up, unless as usual we are bothered about taking the cash and then running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 He wants to leave, we keep him for a year and get nothing or he leaves now for £6m? Don't really see what people are annoyed about in regards to us accepting the fee? Everton are a more stable club with more money, better prospects, an academy with a recent history of bringing through young players and mosh importantly of all, a manager who has a track record of giving youngsters a proper chance. I can't remember Rafa bringing through too many youngsters at other clubs in fairness but may be forgetting some obvious examples. The frustrating aspect of all this isn't the fact we're selling him, it's the fact our club is in the position where it's a no brainer for the player to leave. If Ashley ever needed a kick up the arse about how good facilities, coaches and academies are beneficial in the long run, this is it. Or how about we try to convince him staying at NUFC would be best for him? Or maybe it will set the opposite example with potential school boys who see us as a club who will keep you regardless of your wishes and risk ruining your development - leading them to sign for the someone else from day one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Because of his age, he is only on scholarship terms, rather than a professional contract with the Magpies. This means he is free to leave for a compensation fee, but more importantly, is free to talk with other clubs as he hasn’t signed professional terms at Newcastle. The Magpies have made Gibson a contract offer but he is free to leave for Everton, should he decide to. From the chron. Fair enough then. Still a shame that he apparently doesn't want to stay though, whatever the reason. Mercenary scum, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Because of his age, he is only on scholarship terms, rather than a professional contract with the Magpies. This means he is free to leave for a compensation fee, but more importantly, is free to talk with other clubs as he hasn’t signed professional terms at Newcastle. The Magpies have made Gibson a contract offer but he is free to leave for Everton, should he decide to. From the chron. Fair enough then. Still a shame that he apparently doesn't want to stay though, whatever the reason. Yeah, I'd be interested to see if it's just down to £££ or if its something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 He wants to leave, we keep him for a year and get nothing or he leaves now for £6m? Don't really see what people are annoyed about in regards to us accepting the fee? Everton are a more stable club with more money, better prospects, an academy with a recent history of bringing through young players and mosh importantly of all, a manager who has a track record of giving youngsters a proper chance. I can't remember Rafa bringing through too many youngsters at other clubs in fairness but may be forgetting some obvious examples. The frustrating aspect of all this isn't the fact we're selling him, it's the fact our club is in the position where it's a no brainer for the player to leave. If Ashley ever needed a kick up the arse about how good facilities, coaches and academies are beneficial in the long run, this is it. Or how about we try to convince him staying at NUFC would be best for him? What suggests we haven't done that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Then why are accepting the fee then and instead of going to tribunal? Most tribunal fees go up. Can add on additional clauses, you wont get that through the tribunal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Because of his age, he is only on scholarship terms, rather than a professional contract with the Magpies. This means he is free to leave for a compensation fee, but more importantly, is free to talk with other clubs as he hasn’t signed professional terms at Newcastle. The Magpies have made Gibson a contract offer but he is free to leave for Everton, should he decide to. From the chron. Fair enough then. Still a shame that he apparently doesn't want to stay though, whatever the reason. Yeah, I'd be interested to see if it's just down to £££ or if its something else. Might have to do with NUFC and Everton's divergent outcomes when it comes to developing prospects, coupled with the fact that Everton are a better-run club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Then why are accepting the fee then and instead of going to tribunal? Most tribunal fees go up, unless as usual we are bothered about taking the cash and then running. Maybe they weighed up the options and taking £6m is a better option than a tribunal where you could get less. There's no guarantee we could get more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 He wants to leave, we keep him for a year and get nothing or he leaves now for £6m? Don't really see what people are annoyed about in regards to us accepting the fee? Everton are a more stable club with more money, better prospects, an academy with a recent history of bringing through young players and mosh importantly of all, a manager who has a track record of giving youngsters a proper chance. I can't remember Rafa bringing through too many youngsters at other clubs in fairness but may be forgetting some obvious examples. The frustrating aspect of all this isn't the fact we're selling him, it's the fact our club is in the position where it's a no brainer for the player to leave. If Ashley ever needed a kick up the arse about how good facilities, coaches and academies are beneficial in the long run, this is it. Or how about we try to convince him staying at NUFC would be best for him? Or maybe it will set the opposite example with potential school boys who see us as a club who will keep you regardless of your wishes and risk ruining your development - leading them to sign for the someone else from day one. I think that is complete utter shite. NUFC have invested thousands of pounds into him, if other graduates see that NUFC genuinely want their youngsters to succeed and go to the first team it will make them want to stay and try to make the grade into the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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