Dave Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 How much did we get in parachute payments? Don't think you get anything the first year do you? We got our PL money. Yep, parachute will be end of this season. Have it in my head that if you go straight back up you don't get anything anyway, might be wrong though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 In fairness to Knockaert Leicester were awful that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 How much did we get in parachute payments? Don't think you get anything the first year do you? We got our PL money. Yep, parachute will be end of this season. Have it in my head that if you go straight back up you don't get anything anyway, might be wrong though. Pretty sure that's not true. Think we get a percentage of the PL rev share (something like 55%) in year one. If we go straight back up we're back on the PL gravy train. If we don't we have up to two more years of decreasing parachute payments. After that it's game over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The Atsu announcement is being held for after we sell Sissoko. Despite many fans being f***ed off by his attitude, he's quite clearly one of our best players remaining after relegation so they want to appear that we're not just a selling club. Which we are and have been since Ashley came in. Absolutely, but they've always tried to cover it up. This time it might even be Rafa's idea. Would like to hear off Rafa why he has changed his mind about not letting the c*** go if it was too late in the transfer window when he stressed it wouldn't happen. Pleased he has gone but money should have been used to bring in a quality winger and not a loan deal from Chelsea who was pushed pretty quickly from Everton and Bournemouth. They were playing a game man. They were hardly going to encourage late offers. Nor were they going to knock back late bids of 30m. Just sick of years of s*** coming out of the club and I thought that had changed under Rafa - obviously not. I must have missed this one. I really can't see what they have done wrong this time? They have the best squad in the league and we are 40m in the black. Time will tell but imho don't say something is not going to happen and then do it and know doubt Rafa will explain why - as said not unhappy at all about Sissoko but certainly not impressed with the lad from Chelsea at all. I think on the left hand side we are pretty weak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The Atsu announcement is being held for after we sell Sissoko. Despite many fans being f***ed off by his attitude, he's quite clearly one of our best players remaining after relegation so they want to appear that we're not just a selling club. Which we are and have been since Ashley came in. Absolutely, but they've always tried to cover it up. This time it might even be Rafa's idea. Would like to hear off Rafa why he has changed his mind about not letting the c*** go if it was too late in the transfer window when he stressed it wouldn't happen. Pleased he has gone but money should have been used to bring in a quality winger and not a loan deal from Chelsea who was pushed pretty quickly from Everton and Bournemouth. They were playing a game man. They were hardly going to encourage late offers. Nor were they going to knock back late bids of 30m. Just sick of years of s*** coming out of the club and I thought that had changed under Rafa - obviously not. I must have missed this one. I really can't see what they have done wrong this time? They have the best squad in the league and we are 40m in the black. Agreed. Don't know what Rafa has said exactly, but can understand he wasn't saying we want rid. He played it as if sissoko was still an important player, which has helped with the end fee. And for me, we have gotten £30m for a player who was fairly ineffective and disinterested last season, and who hadn't played at all this season, so not like we were missing him. Unlike when we sold Carroll who was a first team regular and we really should have replaced / not sold as late. I just cant see how the club and/or Rafa are wrong for doing this deal, even if we don't spend any of the Sissoko money till at least January. I'm happy enough with our transfer dealings this summer, and feel that a lot of deadwood/playesr who didn't want to be here are gone, and we have problem areas having been addressed - obviously some still need to see how good they are, but under Rafa I'm confident they will be ok. Sissoko had his chance under Rafa last season, and even got the armband, yet his performances only improved marginally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Every manager in the game speaks in 50% bullshit to the media. Obviously the Pardews of this world up the ante but everything needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 People really just want something to complain about if they've got a problem with this deal like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 People really just want something to complain about if they've got a problem with this deal like. I'm entitled to my opinion if you don't like it then tough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 People really just want something to complain about if they've got a problem with this deal like. I haven't seen too many complaining tbf. I'm one of those who believes that Sissoko was one of our best players, but I'm more than happy if we get £30m for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 People really just want something to complain about if they've got a problem with this deal like. I'm entitled to my opinion if you don't like it then tough I'm entitled to mine. Not stopping you, but I don't agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Sammy Ameobi will join Bolton on loan until January! (@SportsPeteO) #NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 People really just want something to complain about if they've got a problem with this deal like. I haven't seen too many complaining tbf. I'm one of those who believes that Sissoko was one of our best players, but I'm more than happy if we get £30m for him. Not too many, their are people complaining that this now puts us in profit, we're a selling club ect ect. Its a good deal for a player who didn't even want to be here if we stayed up and I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him if/when we go back up. Don't see a single issue with it, as long as Rafa is allowed to do what he sees fit I'm happy and confident of the direction we're headed in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 People really just want something to complain about if they've got a problem with this deal like. I'm entitled to my opinion if you don't like it then tough I'm entitled to mine :shrug: Not stopping you, but I don't agree. Thing is I never said I had a problem with the deal either as my previous posts on Sissoko will tell you - do have a problem with the replacement and the left side in general which i think is very weak and was just disappointed of years of shit statements another was made but Rafa will no doubt explain why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lush Vlad Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 According to the BBC we've spent 59m and you've spent 57m this window. Next down the list is Norwich with 11 or so. What I don't get is the sort of sniffy reaction this spending has got. Are we supposed to just accept our new status and stay where we are, or aren't we allowed to do whatever it takes to get back? idle curiosity how much have Villa gotten back in? A quick google search makes it look like they have a net spend of about £33m. Spent around £49m and got back about £16m, according to Transfermarkt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Surely it's better to go with what we've got, which is surely more than enough to get us up...than spend say, £20m on Knockaert who didn't make the step up to the Premier League last time, then have to spend similar again (or more) to replace him next year? I'm happy with the money there for next summer tbh. this occurred to me last night thinking how 'happy' i was with the fee for sissoko - that if we get promoted and want to push on when we get back up we're either going to have to sign gems for good money, develop a load of bairns to come through pretty quick, or end up spending similar sums ourselves to what everton were looking to splash and that spurs have splashed that'll be a massive test under ashley like, massive there's always the possibility that rafa will build a team that's more than the sum of its parts i guess but on coming back up at the very minimum you'd expect we'll need to splash slimani type cash on a proven striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Surely it's better to go with what we've got, which is surely more than enough to get us up...than spend say, £20m on Knockaert who didn't make the step up to the Premier League last time, then have to spend similar again (or more) to replace him next year? I'm happy with the money there for next summer tbh. this occurred to me last night thinking how 'happy' i was with the fee for sissoko - that if we get promoted and want to push on when we get back up we're either going to have to sign gems for good money, develop a load of bairns to come through pretty quick, or end up spending similar sums ourselves to what everton were looking to splash and that spurs have splashed that'll be a massive test under ashley like, massive there's always the possibility that rafa will build a team that's more than the sum of its parts i guess but on coming back up at the very minimum you'd expect we'll need to splash slimani type cash on a proven striker But Ashley has said he's only ever wanted the club to spend what it earns/brings in, rather than him having to stump up his own money. Surely if we get promoted, we'll get prize money and Premiership money, and we may also have £30m already from Sissoko's transfer (if its up front, and doesn't get spent in January). We have spent a fair amount (by our recent standards) over the last 3 windows - and yes, we have balanced the books by selling/moving players, but thats how he seemingly wants it to work... so I don't get the worry that Ashley will suddenly not let Rafa/Charnley use any funds we gets from (big) players sales and/or Sky TV money??!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Surely it's better to go with what we've got, which is surely more than enough to get us up...than spend say, £20m on Knockaert who didn't make the step up to the Premier League last time, then have to spend similar again (or more) to replace him next year? I'm happy with the money there for next summer tbh. this occurred to me last night thinking how 'happy' i was with the fee for sissoko - that if we get promoted and want to push on when we get back up we're either going to have to sign gems for good money, develop a load of bairns to come through pretty quick, or end up spending similar sums ourselves to what everton were looking to splash and that spurs have splashed that'll be a massive test under ashley like, massive there's always the possibility that rafa will build a team that's more than the sum of its parts i guess but on coming back up at the very minimum you'd expect we'll need to splash slimani type cash on a proven striker But Ashley has said he's only ever wanted the club to spend what it earns/brings in, rather than him having to stump up his own money. Surely if we get promoted, we'll get prize money and Premiership money, and we may also have £30m already from Sissoko's transfer (if its up front, and doesn't get spent in January). We have spent a fair amount (by our recent standards) over the last 3 windows - and yes, we have balanced the books by selling/moving players, but thats how he seemingly wants it to work... so I don't get the worry that Ashley will suddenly not let Rafa/Charnley use any funds we gets from (big) players sales and/or Sky TV money??!! well he's never spent in advance of the money before has he? so next season we'll be on parachute payment and the full PL TV bifta won't come until the end of that season, assuming we're promoted of course i do think there's been a shift in policy from ashley and he'll spend more than before as long as rafa is running the show, but it's still hard for me to see us buying 2-3 players for £20/30m fees and that's kind of what we're going to need if we want to push on fast imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard 13 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Not to go all spreadsheets on this deal but we do have to finance a squad in the Championship and I'm sure we had to get a MA loan last time. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sissoko cash went towards running the club rather than being kept to one side. That said, I'm not sure who at the club will still be on top money. Got to have saved a ton on wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Newcastle United have been linked with a shock move for Sunderland teenage star Joel Asoro. Reports claim that the Magpies' chief scout Graham Carr watched 17-year-old Asoro in action for Sweden Under-21s at the weekend. Asoro has sprung to prominence this summer after catching the eye of new Black Cats boss David Moyes. Carr is keeping tabs on the youngster following an impressive performance for Sweden Under-21s, according to Expressen. Arsenal are also reportedly interested in the youngster, who joined Sunderland last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Newcastle United have been linked with a shock move for Sunderland teenage star Joel Asoro. Reports claim that the Magpies' chief scout Graham Carr watched 17-year-old Asoro in action for Sweden Under-21s at the weekend. Asoro has sprung to prominence this summer after catching the eye of new Black Cats boss David Moyes. Carr is keeping tabs on the youngster following an impressive performance for Sweden Under-21s, according to Expressen. Arsenal are also reportedly interested in the youngster, who joined Sunderland last season. 'He already plays for Sunderland, but he impressed me a lot', Carr is quoted saying to Expressen. http://www.expressen.se/sport/fotboll/landslaget/joel-asoro-hyllas-av-arsenal--newcastle/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 contract up maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorin Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Anyone else felt lost when Markovic faded out and left for Sporting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The Asoro rumour: I met Carr at Sweden-Netherlands on Tuesday (my article and quotes). Did not get the impression we're after him, just that he and Arsenal's Bobby Bennett were both really impressed with him when they watched Sweden-Spain U21 the day before. Spoke to Carr for quite a while. Very open and honest, somewhat feels he's been harshly criticized. He was clear on the fact that Rafa runs the whole show now, said all of the signings this summer was Rafa's. Referred a lot back to Tioté, Cabaye, Debuchy and Ben Arfa and said that in Ben Arfa's case, it was all Pardew. "He only played him at times because he was a fan favourite. Just look at him now" was his conclusion. He also said Saivet was meant to be Tioté's replacement in January as the club was certain he was going, and badly misused as a consequence of that. All in all, I'd not expect him to be part of the club's setup for much longer. He said some things that made me quite certain he's not in any significant power, and from the sound of it, Benitez has a very different idea of who to sign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 He's just a lightning rod for potential frustration now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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