Hanshithispantz Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 When you've lost 7 games and your squad has glaring weaknesses you sign someone like, it's been clear throuout the season that any problems with us were going to be fixed by us bringing players in, not Benitez changing anything. I don't know why people are just accepting these arguments tbh, if we cannot get a 'prem player' in then get one of those disgusting 'average Championship players' (YUKKKK!) in for a few quid. There's not some mental conspiricy theory going in. i totally agree, it appears the manager didn't want any though, he wanted players who were prem ready. You honestly believe Rafa didn't want more boddies in midfield if we were willing to get then? Or do you not think any opinion he has is based on the restrictions he has placed on him by Ashley? He also said he only wanted Prem ready players in earlier in the window when he still young and nieve, he thought he was getting atleast 2 in back then. He'll put on a brave face but he repeated yesterday that he wanted at least 2 in and that it was all on the board whether he gets them or not. his crack from December sounds pretty categoric, whether that opinion changed or not i've no idea, and nor has anyone else tbh. I'd like to think he wasn't just being ashley's mouthpiece though, we've had enough of them. i think we should have brought more competent bodies in for sure, prem ready or not. Guess we'll see how this plays out over the next week or so, we just have to hope he doesn't feel (and hasn't been) stitched up. I don't think he's being Ashley's mouthpiece, I just don't think he's going to come out and start fanning the flames. At a guess I'd say the board reiterated to him at the start of the window than any money spent that month will come off his pot for the summer (and if the reports are true that we're no longer buying players with no sell on value) - hence "I'll only bring in players who can make the step-up". I think by the end of the window when we failed to bring in a single player he was probably pretty pissed off. At the very least I seriously doubt that this was his idea and that had he actually had full control we would have bought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always p*ssed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. I have considered it, <b>it looks mid championship+ JJ shelvey</b>. the other Issue is prem clubs strengthening while we hope for promotion and dont- so the chasm to overcome to stay up if we get there just gets bigger. Fuck off man. no we were shit when shelvey was missing. If shit equals second place in the league then I'm glad we're shit. come on, the momentum was moving away from the play offs when Shelvey was playing, and slipping back towards them without him. and you well know it. Nope. Stop going on as if every team below us are going to win all of their games, because they aren't. And neither are Brighton. There's a long way to go but we've got enough quality to finish at least second imo. Rafa's lack of a plan B is costing us more than Ashley's apparent tight fistedness this season, as much as I hate to say it. ok, we will have to see how it goes. We would have had a far better chance of promotion with a couple of additions. It looks to me like Ashley is sewing the seeds for a mediocre time if we do get promoted, curtail Rafas ambition while looking like they tried. Based on what though? There's absolutely nothing to suggest he'll go either way in the summer, spunking shit loads or giving Rafa nothing to work with. Just a feeling based on 10 years and 2 relegations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I still fail to see where Rafa has said he had full control and he even played it down in his Summer announcement. It is fairly assumed that he has final say on targets which isn't the same tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 He should have full control of his ins and outs. Not full control of everything like in the 70s where managers were turning up at player's houses. It was believed that if he says 'we need x player' we'd go out and get them (within reason) from what I recall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Manager should always have control on the type of signings and have final say on the players we sign. Board should manage the finances and tell the manager what he has available and what he would need to do in terms of moving players on to create funds to sign extra bodies. I despise the role Carr has had at this club and I still think his role at the club is what got us relegated in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. Fucking not on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. Fucking not on. Guardiola probably wants s proper defence anarl. Let down badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I despise the role Carr has had at this club and I still think his role at the club is what got us relegated. Just like Kinnear, he's a putrid old bastard way past his sell-by date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. f***ing not on. Guardiola probably wants s proper defence anarl. Let down badly. It's hardly the Man City boards fault that he spunked £50m on John Stones and £16m on a goalkeeper with no hands like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Only Foluwashola would make that comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. f***ing not on. Guardiola probably wants s proper defence anarl. Let down badly. It's hardly the Man City boards fault that he spunked £50m on John Stones and £16m on a goalkeeper with no hands like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I for one can't believe we let Bristol City sign David Cotterill. Ashley out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 No worries, Essien & Meireles are free agents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 No worries, Essien & Meireles are free agents Lampard spoke highly of Rafa I'm sure after his brief spell at Chelsea........! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. f***ing not on. Guardiola probably wants s proper defence anarl. Let down badly. It's hardly the Man City boards fault that he spunked £50m on John Stones and £16m on a goalkeeper with no hands like. Similarly a say Reading fan would look at us and consider us hysterical dweebs for claiming Rafa 'hasn't been backed'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Didn't the announcement say he had control of all footballing matters? That doesn't mean he will set budgets etc. Plus everyone's assuming that we fucked up getting townsend. If Palace want to keep a player they've got under contract I'd say we have't got any control over that. Plus who could we buy that would be as good as Shelvey that could make the step up to the Premier League next year at a sensible price who would be prepared to drop to the Championship? Mountains out of molehills and I've always been a massive sceptic of Mike Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. f***ing not on. Guardiola probably wants s proper defence anarl. Let down badly. It's hardly the Man City boards fault that he spunked £50m on John Stones and £16m on a goalkeeper with no hands like. Similarly a say Reading fan would look at us and consider us hysterical dweebs for claiming Rafa 'hasn't been backed'. I'd be interested to compare Rafa Benitez net spend to Jaap Stams mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. f***ing not on. Guardiola probably wants s proper defence anarl. Let down badly. It's hardly the Man City boards fault that he spunked £50m on John Stones and £16m on a goalkeeper with no hands like. Similarly a say Reading fan would look at us and consider us hysterical dweebs for claiming Rafa 'hasn't been backed'. So am I to take it from that that you think Rafa has been adequately backed, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. f***ing not on. Guardiola probably wants s proper defence anarl. Let down badly. It's hardly the Man City boards fault that he spunked £50m on John Stones and £16m on a goalkeeper with no hands like. Similarly a say Reading fan would look at us and consider us hysterical dweebs for claiming Rafa 'hasn't been backed'. So am I to take it from that that you think Rafa has been adequately backed, then? For the purposes of the Championship, I think so, yes. We had this frenzy when we flogged Sissoko at the end of the last window from the same posters tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 No surprise the club has messed up this window, feels like a stunning return to form. It's the 13th, not the 31st. Put that Knee back in place. I'll put my foot up your arse if you like? Problem is you'd probably climax. We havent signed anyone yet, its not even halfway through the window, yet we've "messed up". There's no plan whatsoever (half arsed scattergun approach) and seems like the club thought they could ride their luck through to the end of the season. If you are happy with signing no one or some of the dross we've been linked with then fair enough, but I expected more. Two weeks wasted of settling in players, as we've seen with lazaar if we buy anyone now they'll be making their debut in a few month, if at all. It feels like the club of old, I doubt now we will sign anyone of note. Fuckin ridiculous that like Yet spot on. Clear to me from very early in the window what was going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. f***ing not on. Guardiola probably wants s proper defence anarl. Let down badly. It's hardly the Man City boards fault that he spunked £50m on John Stones and £16m on a goalkeeper with no hands like. Similarly a say Reading fan would look at us and consider us hysterical dweebs for claiming Rafa 'hasn't been backed'. So am I to take it from that that you think Rafa has been adequately backed, then? For the purposes of the Championship, I think so, yes. We had this frenzy when we flogged Sissoko at the end of the last window from the same posters tbf. Flogged him and didn't replace him, nor has he been replaced since. None of this would matter to me if Rafa hadn't come out and said what he wanted. We'll find out when we next see Rafa, but either way you'd be a fool to think there's nothing to be concerned about imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 According to True Faith he told them personally before the window opened that he wanted a CM and a winger. He's been let down badly, like. f***ing not on. Guardiola probably wants s proper defence anarl. Let down badly. It's hardly the Man City boards fault that he spunked £50m on John Stones and £16m on a goalkeeper with no hands like. Similarly a say Reading fan would look at us and consider us hysterical dweebs for claiming Rafa 'hasn't been backed'. Didn't realize you were an ashley apologist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Rafa wanted 2 players (this is pretty clear with the evidence available), he thought he was going to get them even yesterday lunch time. He didn't get them, that's a failure by the club as clearly he was told we had a chance of getting them in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 What gets me is if we really wanted Townsend back, why wait until the last few days of the window? This smacks of the same old way we operated prior to Rafa arriving and the failure (and that's what it is) to bring in the two players Rafa wanted is worrisome. MA and LC cannot be trusted. Again, I think Rafa will take us up and we will part ways. Rafa to someone more ambitious and us because we want a Pardew basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 And what if we didn't have a chance? What if they weren't available? Just go out and buy anyone?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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