Heron Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 To be fair KaKa is right, I guess Rafa just doesn't think there is any alternative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Kaka is right in thinking we have to play long ball stuff and sacrifice our best striker by a mile just because Jack Colback's in the team? You get thicker by the day, like, Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Kaka is right in thinking we have to play long ball stuff and sacrifice our best striker by a mile just because Jack Colback's in the team? You get thicker by the day, like, Ian. Would you care to offer an explanation for our move to a more direct style? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Kaka is right in thinking we have to play long ball stuff and sacrifice our best striker by a mile just because Jack Colback's in the team? You get thicker by the day, like, Ian. He's right that Benitez won't consider an alternative to Colback, and he's right that Colback makes it harder to play better passing football. Sheesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Kaka is right in thinking we have to play long ball stuff and sacrifice our best striker by a mile just because Jack Colback's in the team? You get thicker by the day, like, Ian. Would you care to offer an explanation for our move to a more direct style? It's either due to an injury to Gayle leaving Daryl Murphy as the best option up front, or getting the best/negating the worst out of Jack fucking Colback. Easy to be completely stumped as to which is more likely to provoke Rafa Benitez into changing the system, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Didn't we win loads of games in a row whenever Colback was in the side earlier in the season? It's very simplistic to say he's the only reason for the change in style Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Didn't we win loads of games in a row whenever Colback was in the side earlier in the season? It's very simplistic to say he's the only reason for the change in style I think it's more to do with confidence of the side and how teams are setting up against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 If Gayle was fully fit and up to speed there's absolutely no chance he'd have started on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 If Gayle was fully fit and up to speed there's absolutely no chance he'd have started on the bench. I disagree with that, he was fit enough to start vs Fulham. I think Rafa started Murphy as he suits the way in which we are playing at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 If Gayle was fully fit and up to speed there's absolutely no chance he'd have started on the bench. I disagree with that, he was fit enough to start vs Fulham. I think Rafa started Murphy as he suits the way in which we are playing at the moment. Murphy's in better form than Gayle at the moment, regardless of the system. Has the system really changed that much by the way since Murphy's come into the team? Shelvey still looks to hit it long for Gayle a lot of the time; the only difference I see is it goes over the top rather than at his head as it does for Murphy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 It's a bit harsh on Gayle to say Murphy is in better form than him when Gayle has averaged a goal a game or something like that all season He was poor against Fulham (mainly because the whole team were terrible) but he did score against Huddersfield and not had much chance to build up form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Him starting a game isn't evidence he's fully fit though, if anything him starting one game and being on the bench the next is a sign he's not. He's obviously fully recovered from his injury but that's different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 It's a bit harsh on Gayle to say Murphy is in better form than him when Gayle has averaged a goal a game or something like that all season He was poor against Fulham (mainly because the whole team were terrible) but he did score against Huddersfield and not had much chance to build up form. Well aye, obviously Gayle's been the better over the course of the season. Over the past few games though, Murphy's been one of our better performers whereas Gayle hasn't featured much and, IMO, hasn't quite looked up to speed yet when he has. Agree though that Gayle hasn't had much of a chance to get going again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 We've looked much better in the last 5 games when Murphy's been on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Him starting a game isn't evidence he's fully fit though, if anything him starting one game and being on the bench the next is a sign he's not. He's obviously fully recovered from his injury but that's different. If he isn't fully fit, he shouldn't be starting games when they are fully fit strikers. For me, Murphy's been our stand out performer over the last 5 games and actually offers us something different upfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Gayle will start scoring again pretty soon I reckon. The two week rest should do him good and his goals could well start turning these stuttering performances into wins just like they did in the first half of the season. He was sniffing around even in the 20 mins or so he was on on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Gayle will start scoring again pretty soon I reckon. The two week rest should do him good and his goals could well start turning these stuttering performances into wins just like they did in the first half of the season. He was sniffing around even in the 20 mins or so he was on on Saturday. Might be useful to get a couple of behind closed door games for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 We've looked much better in the last 5 games when Murphy's been on the pitch. As opposed to who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Kaka is right in thinking we have to play long ball stuff and sacrifice our best striker by a mile just because Jack Colback's in the team? You get thicker by the day, like, Ian. What an incredible way to interpret what I said. I actually agree with what you said, but was just stating that i could not see how we could improve our style of play with Colback in there, because he kills our midfield play, which is vital to an improved style. I said nothing about continuing to play long ball, or continuing to play Murphy. I mean ... I don't even know what to say to that at all. I want Colback out of there, whether for Mbemba or whoever. That is my frustration really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Kaka is right in thinking we have to play long ball stuff and sacrifice our best striker by a mile just because Jack Colback's in the team? You get thicker by the day, like, Ian. He's right that Benitez won't consider an alternative to Colback, and he's right that Colback makes it harder to play better passing football. Sheesh. Thanks man. It was really that simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Didn't we win loads of games in a row whenever Colback was in the side earlier in the season? It's very simplistic to say he's the only reason for the change in style Colback and Hayden were rotated frequently during that run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 There was a stat though that when he played instead of Hayden we won 11 in a row or something. Obviously doesn't mean he's the better player, far more going on than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 In my opinion our style of play has never really looked good this season. Not at all consistently anyway. For 5 mins spurts here and there perhaps. When Colback is in there it always looks worse from my point of view anyway. Even with Hayden, it isn't great either, but at least we don't get dominated as much, and aren't as fragile defensively, which at least allows us a bit more control of games, regardless of how well we are actually using the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Didn't we win loads of games in a row whenever Colback was in the side earlier in the season? It's very simplistic to say he's the only reason for the change in style Colback and Hayden were rotated frequently during that run. I know that but I thought there was a different stat where we had won loads of games in a row when Colback played as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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