WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Should've been peddled at the end of our first season back up. Agree with the Kelly comparison. He did a job and we're grateful for it, but he's of no use now and his lack of ability is going to see the negatives outweigh the positives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 right click, convert to CM I bet he’d be more useful there than Shelvey and Hendrick have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 right click, convert to CM I bet he’d be more useful there than Shelvey and Hendrick have been. He wouldn't because he's immobile as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 right click, convert to CM I bet he’d be more useful there than Shelvey and Hendrick have been. He wouldn't because he's immobile as well. It’d look like he was at least trying to run though ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Really hope he does go before he ends up having had more bad performances than good ones for us. If he'd left/been upgraded on in summer 2018 he'd literally have gone down as one of our best ever buys, tbh. Absolutely integral to promotion and consolidation, and useful in Rafa's last season too (though it was achingly clear at that point that we needed to replace him). Machine-like in his productivity in the Championship and that goal against ManU was an especially brilliant moment, the Man City penalty too. The equalising volley down at Bournemouth was pretty special too. Get yourself shot, Matt, and actually enjoy the last three or so years of your career. Don't wither away at this shitheap, you've earned yourself a good move. He should go with massive respect from the fanbase for his contribution in the Rafa years. I honestly don’t think he gets the credit he deserves for what he’s done here. Anyone who got to many games in our Championship season knows how much he carried us at times when no one else did. He also had some huge games in the Premier League for us in our first season back. That isn’t to say it isn’t time for him to move on though, his pace was letting him down when Rafa moved him to wing back and it seems to have dropped off a bit again. It was a very odd decision to give him a new deal. I’m massively grateful to our destroyer of corner flags though and anyone celebrating his sale wants their heads looking at. Two great posts. Rafa knew his time was up and was looking to upgrade him. The fact he’s outstayed Rafa says everything wrong with the club really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Really hope he does go before he ends up having had more bad performances than good ones for us. If he'd left/been upgraded on in summer 2018 he'd literally have gone down as one of our best ever buys, tbh. Absolutely integral to promotion and consolidation, and useful in Rafa's last season too (though it was achingly clear at that point that we needed to replace him). Machine-like in his productivity in the Championship and that goal against ManU was an especially brilliant moment, the Man City penalty too. The equalising volley down at Bournemouth was pretty special too. Get yourself shot, Matt, and actually enjoy the last three or so years of your career. Don't wither away at this shitheap, you've earned yourself a good move. He should go with massive respect from the fanbase for his contribution in the Rafa years. I honestly don’t think he gets the credit he deserves for what he’s done here. Anyone who got to many games in our Championship season knows how much he carried us at times when no one else did. He also had some huge games in the Premier League for us in our first season back. That isn’t to say it isn’t time for him to move on though, his pace was letting him down when Rafa moved him to wing back and it seems to have dropped off a bit again. It was a very odd decision to give him a new deal. I’m massively grateful to our destroyer of corner flags though and anyone celebrating his sale wants their heads looking at. Two great posts. Rafa knew his time was up and was looking to upgrade him. The fact he’s outstayed Rafa says everything wrong with the club really. Same with that lazy, baldy nonce strolling around the centre of the park pumping hollywood balls into the stand and not being able to beat the first man off his corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Yep. Rafa had a plan and clearly those two along with Clark who has also ironically been given a new contract wouldn’t of been a part of it. Next dilemma is letting Gayle go for nothing or giving him another contract! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Has the bid been 'put in writing' yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Really hope he does go before he ends up having had more bad performances than good ones for us. If he'd left/been upgraded on in summer 2018 he'd literally have gone down as one of our best ever buys, tbh. Absolutely integral to promotion and consolidation, and useful in Rafa's last season too (though it was achingly clear at that point that we needed to replace him). Machine-like in his productivity in the Championship and that goal against ManU was an especially brilliant moment, the Man City penalty too. The equalising volley down at Bournemouth was pretty special too. Get yourself shot, Matt, and actually enjoy the last three or so years of your career. Don't wither away at this shitheap, you've earned yourself a good move. He should go with massive respect from the fanbase for his contribution in the Rafa years. I honestly don’t think he gets the credit he deserves for what he’s done here. Anyone who got to many games in our Championship season knows how much he carried us at times when no one else did. He also had some huge games in the Premier League for us in our first season back. That isn’t to say it isn’t time for him to move on though, his pace was letting him down when Rafa moved him to wing back and it seems to have dropped off a bit again. It was a very odd decision to give him a new deal. I’m massively grateful to our destroyer of corner flags though and anyone celebrating his sale wants their heads looking at. Two great posts. Rafa knew his time was up and was looking to upgrade him. The fact he’s outstayed Rafa says everything wrong with the club really. Saviet has outstayed Schteve, Rafa and with all hope Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Yep. Rafa had a plan and clearly those two along with Clark who has also ironically been given a new contract wouldn’t of been a part of it. Next dilemma is letting Gayle go for nothing or giving him another contract! Clark isn't really an issue, he's been a proper pro and performs pretty good all things considered. It's Ritchie and Shelvey that are completely mind boggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Yep. Rafa had a plan and clearly those two along with Clark who has also ironically been given a new contract wouldn’t of been a part of it. Next dilemma is letting Gayle go for nothing or giving him another contract! Clark isn't really an issue, he's been a proper pro and performs pretty good all things considered. It's Ritchie and Shelvey that are completely mind boggling. So you’d have Clark over Lejune in the squad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Yep. Rafa had a plan and clearly those two along with Clark who has also ironically been given a new contract wouldn’t of been a part of it. Next dilemma is letting Gayle go for nothing or giving him another contract! Clark isn't really an issue, he's been a proper pro and performs pretty good all things considered. It's Ritchie and Shelvey that are completely mind boggling. So you’d have Clark over Lejune in the squad? Nah, I bloody love Lejeune. Where did I say I'd have Clark over anyone? Did Rafa want to sell Clark? I always felt that Rafa rated him but as a backup only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. The question is would any other of the clubs from mid-table (and probably lower down also) up offer new contracts to Clark, Shelvey or Ritchie - the answer would be a big no. It's why this club is a total mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. The question is would any other of the clubs from mid-table (and probably lower down also) up offer new contracts to Clark, Shelvey or Ritchie - the answer would be a big no. It's why this club is a total mess. Clark would be a decent squad option for someone like West Ham or even Everton. He's as steady as they come. Not on the level of Schar or Lejeune but he's no donkey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. The question is would any other of the clubs from mid-table (and probably lower down also) up offer new contracts to Clark, Shelvey or Ritchie - the answer would be a big no. It's why this club is a total mess. Clark would be a decent squad option for someone like West Ham or even Everton. He's as steady as they come. Not on the level of Schar or Lejeune but he's no donkey So why didn't anybody come in for him then if that's the case as his contract was up? Sorry I disagree, like Clark's attitude, but, just don't see him at lower mid-table and above level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. The question is would any other of the clubs from mid-table (and probably lower down also) up offer new contracts to Clark, Shelvey or Ritchie - the answer would be a big no. It's why this club is a total mess. Absolutely. Clark Yedlin Gayle Shelvey Ritchie Were all on the way out under Rafa. Keep the squad full of shit, don't replace and stand still them while other clubs inch forward is our mantra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. The question is would any other of the clubs from mid-table (and probably lower down also) up offer new contracts to Clark, Shelvey or Ritchie - the answer would be a big no. It's why this club is a total mess. I think that’s the same question I was asking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. The question is would any other of the clubs from mid-table (and probably lower down also) up offer new contracts to Clark, Shelvey or Ritchie - the answer would be a big no. It's why this club is a total mess. Absolutely. Clark Yedlin Gayle Shelvey Ritchie Were all on the way out under Rafa. Keep the squad full of shit, don't replace and stand still them while other clubs inch forward is our mantra. Not sure Clark was on the way out under Rafa, mind. I seem to remember he'd staked a claim as a solid squad player and one of 2 CBs to reliably cover the first choice 3. I got the impression Rafa was very happy with those 5 covering the 3 CB positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. The question is would any other of the clubs from mid-table (and probably lower down also) up offer new contracts to Clark, Shelvey or Ritchie - the answer would be a big no. It's why this club is a total mess. I think that’s the same question I was asking I was reinforcing your point ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyprickles Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 reckon Ritchie leaving could be related to Choudhury coming in in some way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. The question is would any other of the clubs from mid-table (and probably lower down also) up offer new contracts to Clark, Shelvey or Ritchie - the answer would be a big no. It's why this club is a total mess. Absolutely. Clark Yedlin Gayle Shelvey Ritchie Were all on the way out under Rafa. Keep the squad full of shit, don't replace and stand still them while other clubs inch forward is our mantra. Not sure Clark was on the way out under Rafa, mind. I seem to remember he'd staked a claim as a solid squad player and one of 2 CBs to reliably cover the first choice 3. I got the impression Rafa was very happy with those 5 covering the 3 CB positions. That’s how I recall it too. He was considering it but Clark came in and did very well again and Rafa decided against it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I was making the point that Rafa had a plan and Clark would’ve been gone by now and replaced. The fact he is getting a new contract and Lejune is the one that’s been shipped out highlights the problem I’m referring to. It’s not a personal thing against Clark. Like you say he’s a good pro as is Ritchie. The question is would any other of the clubs from mid-table (and probably lower down also) up offer new contracts to Clark, Shelvey or Ritchie - the answer would be a big no. It's why this club is a total mess. Absolutely. Clark Yedlin Gayle Shelvey Ritchie Were all on the way out under Rafa. Keep the squad full of shit, don't replace and stand still them while other clubs inch forward is our mantra. Not sure Clark was on the way out under Rafa, mind. I seem to remember he'd staked a claim as a solid squad player and one of 2 CBs to reliably cover the first choice 3. I got the impression Rafa was very happy with those 5 covering the 3 CB positions. That’s how I recall it too. He was considering it but Clark came in and did very well again and Rafa decided against it. Aye. I'm sure Rafa appreciated his ability to step in, when needed, with little fuss. I think he would have been the last of that bunch to be replaced. The others were all promotion first teamers that needed replacing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 The club has a lot of deadwood and Rafa was in the process off shifting them off. I can't believe the club won't let Ritchie go for any price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I think there’s of course a price for each player but Ritchie has been a pretty stellar servant to the club and wants to end his career back down at Bournemouth and get some playing time too. The club apparently holding out for a little extra quid is poor behavior once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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