triggs Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Of coz Messi created most chances when the whole team is setting up for him. If you genuinely think this is good for the team, then explain why they get three draws. Germany won the cup without a super star. We are in top half of the league without a proven EPL star. If a team is setting up just for shining the jewel crown it won't achieve great things. Because they missed loads of easy chances. Just look at their results without Messi. They can't do anything without him. Argentina had better chances than Germany in the World Cup Final and Neuer should have been sent off which people forget. And you simply cannot compare us to Argentina. Argentina have to deal with teams playing 11 men behind the ball every game, we don't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Can't do anything with him, can't do anything without him. Seems to me like he doesn't have that much effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Aye, but you may remember the one where it was either going to be Ronaldo or Ibrahimovic. Aye but Sweden are trash ( no offence to the Swedes here) Ibra or no Ibra. We're better now with the new manager (and Ibra-less) actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 The World Cup without Messi would be an absolute tragedy, like. Aye but isn't the playoff against New Zealand? Even if they don't get through automatically, they'll be there. It's no different to when Portugal had to go through a playoff with Ronaldo. There was never any real danger of them not qualifying. What the fuck are you on about? They have to go to Ecuador at altitude and win. They've won there once in the last ten occasions and that was in 2001. If Paraguay hadn't scored two goals in the last five minutes it was totally out of their hands. Never any danger ffs Forgive my ignorance, but can they not qualify with a draw? (via the playoff v New Zealand) A draw in their game, Paraguay lose or draw v Venezeula (unlikely, but possible) and Peru lose v Columbia (or Peru beat Columbia by 2 goals) and they’ll be in the playoff, no? Or does it go on a ridiculous head to head rather than GD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 The World Cup without Messi would be an absolute tragedy, like. Aye but isn't the playoff against New Zealand? Even if they don't get through automatically, they'll be there. It's no different to when Portugal had to go through a playoff with Ronaldo. There was never any real danger of them not qualifying. What the fuck are you on about? They have to go to Ecuador at altitude and win. They've won there once in the last ten occasions and that was in 2001. If Paraguay hadn't scored two goals in the last five minutes it was totally out of their hands. Never any danger ffs Forgive my ignorance, but can they not qualify with a draw? (via the playoff v New Zealand) A draw in their game, Paraguay lose or draw v Venezeula (unlikely, but possible) and Peru lose v Columbia (or Peru beat Columbia by 2 goals) and they’ll be in the playoff, no? Or does it go on a ridiculous head to head rather than GD? You're correct but those scenarios won't happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Can't do anything with him, can't do anything without him. Seems to me like he doesn't have that much effect. Can't do anything with him? Their results are absolutely miles better with him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 The World Cup without Messi would be an absolute tragedy, like. Aye but isn't the playoff against New Zealand? Even if they don't get through automatically, they'll be there. It's no different to when Portugal had to go through a playoff with Ronaldo. There was never any real danger of them not qualifying. What the fuck are you on about? They have to go to Ecuador at altitude and win. They've won there once in the last ten occasions and that was in 2001. If Paraguay hadn't scored two goals in the last five minutes it was totally out of their hands. Never any danger ffs Forgive my ignorance, but can they not qualify with a draw? (via the playoff v New Zealand) A draw in their game, Paraguay lose or draw v Venezeula (unlikely, but possible) and Peru lose v Columbia (or Peru beat Columbia by 2 goals) and they’ll be in the playoff, no? Or does it go on a ridiculous head to head rather than GD? You're correct but those scenarios won't happen Might watch their last game, they’ll have to go for it like or end up risking it with the scenarios above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I don't follow international football at all because it's crap, i assumed Peru would go through automatically and Argentina would have to face a playoff no matter what. Calm the f*** down. If you don't follow it then you don't have to comment on it like you know better than people who've actually done some research I have never implied i did, you assumed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Argentina are in extremely serious danger now. Quito should not even be a legal venue to hold a top level international football match. It is genuinely a danger to the players. Winning there will be extremely difficult, Messi or no Messi. CONMEBOL is held up as the most difficult qualification region, but the truth is that is the most just format of all. There are no demons waiting in a random draw, if they don't qualify, it will be the result they truly deserve. I don't follow international football at all because it's crap, i assumed Peru would go through automatically and Argentina would have to face a playoff no matter what. Calm the f*** down. What a bizarre stance, to enjoy a sport and not follow the single most popular event in that sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Popular ≠ 'good'. I find internationals tedious as fuck, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 I find tournaments good. The rest are just shite nonevents that ruin club football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Gewww on Mitro! Gonna watch our Serbian prince tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Daryl Murphy is like Benjamin Button. 1 nil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Kinda wish we'd tried to keep Murphy more like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Class goal by Onomah for England U21's. 1 up v.s Scotland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 We should have kept Murphy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Murphy again. Great header Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Wish Murphy was this good when we had Robbie Keane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Glad for big Murph, was a great pro last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Croatia vs Finland. Croatia with 73% posession first half 0-0 but god that was depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturla Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Turkey with comical defending in 1st half. May it long continue. Turkey 0 - 2 Iceland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturla Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Turkey 0 - 3 Iceland 48 min Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Croatia the overrated fuckers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Tonight has shown why I never ever wanted us to sign Shane Long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Dear me, international football is dull. Even tournaments don't hold the same magic as the Champions League, Premier League or even the FA Cup. And being someone who doesn't care too much for patriotism, I just don't see anything to be invested in. (don't get me wrong, I love my country, but I just struggle to get so invested in it enough to have an us against them attitude, plus England are f***ing trash) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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