Stifler Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 It’s likely that the group H runners up will be the ones who fail to qualify for the play offs. Greece currently hold the spot on 13 points (2 points ahead of Scotland who are bottom of the play off’s table), but they play who are bottom next and will not gain any points for a win there. All the other teams below them play teams above the lowest ranking side. If Bosnia were to finish 2nd ahead of Greece then they would only be able to get 11 points. A win for Scotland would put them in the play offs. I think Northern Ireland are now garuanteed a play off place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Possibility of World Cup 2018 being without all of Argentina, Netherlands, Ivory Coast, Czech Republic, Italy & Croatia Italy and Argentina will qualify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Can't see Czech Republic being that much of a miss fair point, the list was more just teams who are almost always at WC's. I (for some reason) thought they'd been one of said constants for the past few tournaments, but it turns out they havent even been in the last 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Possibility of World Cup 2018 being without all of Argentina, Netherlands, Ivory Coast, Czech Republic, Italy & Croatia Italy and Argentina will qualify. Probably. That's why I said "possibility" edit: oh, Ghana too. They're fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I'm Welsh and going to the game Monday even if we beat Ireland we may not go into playoffs providing Serbia win, I'm so confused! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Literally no idea how the 2nd place thing works, can anyone provide a brief (and simple) explanation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Literally no idea how the 2nd place thing works, can anyone provide a brief (and simple) explanation? There are 9 groups and only 8 teams can qualify for the play offs, so only the 8 best 2nd placed teams go into the play offs. Some groups were going to have 6 teams, not 5 teams, so for purposes of calculating the best 2nd placed teams in the groups of six the results against the team that finish were to be discounted from their total. Then Kosovo and Gibraltar were admitted into UEFA and so each group then had six teams, but they kept the same system so in the qualification for the play offs when comparing teams in 2nd place with each other the results against the team that came bottom in their group isn't included. As things stand, the one team in 2nd that wouldn't make the play offs is Scotland but it's very tight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Possibility of World Cup 2018 being without all of Argentina, Netherlands, Ivory Coast, Czech Republic, Italy & Croatia Good to change it up every now and then, get some new teams in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Literally no idea how the 2nd place thing works, can anyone provide a brief (and simple) explanation? Just look here and you see what's going on - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking_of_second-placed_teams The 8 (of 9) highlighted play each other in 2 legged ties, winner goes to the WC. They'll be seeded, so won't get Portugal v Italy for example (if they're both there after the last group game) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Literally no idea how the 2nd place thing works, can anyone provide a brief (and simple) explanation? There are 9 groups and only 8 teams can qualify for the play offs, so only the 8 best 2nd placed teams go into the play offs. Some groups were going to have 6 teams, not 5 teams, so for purposes of calculating the best 2nd placed teams in the groups of six the results against the team that finish were to be discounted from their total. Then Kosovo and Gibraltar were admitted into UEFA and so each group then had six teams, but they kept the same system so in the qualification for the play offs when comparing teams in 2nd place with each other the results against the team that came bottom in their group isn't included. As things stand, the one team in 2nd that wouldn't make the play offs is Scotland but it's very tight. Scotland have to win to finish 2nd pretty much given who Slovakia have last, so they'd over take Greece should the do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Hoping Scotland get to a play off, and lose it late on, as you simply can't beat a bit of last minute Scotch heartache..........crying ginger kids, angry fat men and discarded Jimmy wigs. Can't wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 If they get through they'll just get Italy no doubt anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 If they get through they'll just get Italy no doubt anyway. Or Portugal, or France/Sweden. I believe the draw is seeded as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Possibility of World Cup 2018 being without all of Argentina, Netherlands, Ivory Coast, Czech Republic, Italy & Croatia Good to change it up every now and then, get some new teams in. New teams who will mind numbingly boring to watch for the neutral as usual no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Some beard that Parker bloke has got for Gillingham in their game vs Portsmouth on the telly. Surprised he's only 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Argentina's team is awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Scenes at Costa Rica t'other night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Scotland winning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Scotland winning I want them to go through, but you just know they will be handed an impossible task in the play offs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Slovaks winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Scotland drawing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Scots on the ropes here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Scotland losing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Scotland have been absolutely rubbish this half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 That was too easy for Slovenia Scotland won't be coming back from this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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