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It’s likely that the group H runners up will be the ones who fail to qualify for the play offs. Greece currently hold the spot on 13 points (2 points ahead of Scotland who are bottom of the play off’s table), but they play who are bottom next and will not gain any points for a win there. All the other teams below them play teams above the lowest ranking side. If Bosnia were to finish 2nd ahead of Greece then they would only be able to get 11 points. A win for Scotland would put them in the play offs. I think Northern Ireland are now garuanteed a play off place.

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Can't see Czech Republic being that much of a miss

fair point, the list was more just teams who are almost always at WC's.  I (for some reason) thought they'd been one of said constants for the past few tournaments, but it turns out they havent even been in the last 2 :lol:

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Possibility of World Cup 2018 being without all of Argentina, Netherlands, Ivory Coast, Czech Republic, Italy & Croatia

Italy and Argentina will qualify.

Probably. That's why I said "possibility"

 

 

 

 

edit: oh, Ghana too. They're fun

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Literally no idea how the 2nd place thing works, can anyone provide a brief (and simple) explanation?

 

There are 9 groups and only 8 teams can qualify for the play offs, so only the 8 best 2nd placed teams go into the play offs.

 

Some groups were going to have 6 teams, not 5 teams, so for purposes of calculating the best 2nd placed teams in the groups of six the results against the team that finish were to be discounted from their total.

 

Then Kosovo and Gibraltar were admitted into UEFA and so each group then had six teams, but they kept the same system so in the qualification for the play offs when comparing teams in 2nd place with each other the results against the team that came bottom in their group isn't included.

 

As things stand, the one team in 2nd that wouldn't make the play offs is Scotland but it's very tight.

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Literally no idea how the 2nd place thing works, can anyone provide a brief (and simple) explanation?

Just look here and you see what's going on  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking_of_second-placed_teams

 

The 8 (of 9) highlighted play each other in 2 legged ties, winner goes to the WC. They'll be seeded, so won't get Portugal v Italy for example (if they're both there after the last group game)

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Literally no idea how the 2nd place thing works, can anyone provide a brief (and simple) explanation?

 

There are 9 groups and only 8 teams can qualify for the play offs, so only the 8 best 2nd placed teams go into the play offs.

 

Some groups were going to have 6 teams, not 5 teams, so for purposes of calculating the best 2nd placed teams in the groups of six the results against the team that finish were to be discounted from their total.

 

Then Kosovo and Gibraltar were admitted into UEFA and so each group then had six teams, but they kept the same system so in the qualification for the play offs when comparing teams in 2nd place with each other the results against the team that came bottom in their group isn't included.

 

As things stand, the one team in 2nd that wouldn't make the play offs is Scotland but it's very tight.

 

Scotland have to win to finish 2nd pretty much given who Slovakia have last, so they'd over take Greece should the do so.

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Possibility of World Cup 2018 being without all of Argentina, Netherlands, Ivory Coast, Czech Republic, Italy & Croatia

 

Good to change it up every now and then, get some new teams in.

 

New teams who will mind numbingly boring to watch for the neutral as usual no doubt.

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