Twinport53 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What's actually wrong with Dummett? Pulled a hamstring against Spurs, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Wait where's this pap stuff coming from? He's obviously no world beater but on the other hand has he had many bad games yet, i.e. performances where he either has or could have cost us through pure shitness? None that I recall. Out of pure luck than anything else. Pretty much every time today and against Southampton, every time the opposition went down his side they were able to get a chance out of it. He was extremely lucky against Southampton that Tadic missed an open goal, while today Lejeune had to constantly cover for him because he was nowhere to be seen. He's awful, as much as we all dislike Dummett i don't ever recall him ever being as bad. You'll remember Dummet the first time you see him try to handle a fucking football. I've missed the last couple of games but hadn't noticed Manquillo be that terrible in the earlier ones to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What's actually wrong with Dummett? His positional sense. Awful at reading the ball in the air. Thinks the ball is a grenade. Oh, you meant what injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I honestly don't care about that because no one on the team can't control a football except for Merino, Shelvey and at times Ritchie. But at least Dummett doesn't force his CB to cover his arse and front up Townsend because he's constantly out of position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Manquillo wasn't particularly bad today, he's just average. As pointed out, would be absolutely fine as cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Manquillo wasn't particularly bad today, he's just average. As pointed out, would be absolutely fine as cover. I dunno about you, but if my full back forces my CB to cover him and go against the winger 1 v 1 on multiple occasions i'd consider that fullback bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Meh. I just know when Paully D comes back it'll get worse. I dislike Dummett as much as the next guy but there's no way in hell he's worse. Defensively he's better, but Manquillo can at least control and pass without clearing it when he sees his shadow, so it's a tough one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Manquillo wasn't particularly bad today, he's just average. As pointed out, would be absolutely fine as cover. Which he is. Remember playing the likes of Paul Huntington and David Edgar at full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Pretty confident Rafa will go with Dummett like. Mbemba looks streets ahead of both like, he's surely injured, aye? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Manquillo wasn't particularly bad today, he's just average. As pointed out, would be absolutely fine as cover. Which he is. Remember playing the likes of Paul Huntington and David Edgar at full back. Exactly this. He plays with a lot of nerves imo. He looks like he has all the attributes to be a decent player, but I reckon he's overthinking things or panicking constantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What's actually wrong with Dummett? Don't start. In terms of on the ball play he makes Danny Simpson's passing from the back look like Dani Alves's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Well obviously people disagree. I think he's fucking awful though, the only reason we haven't concede loads of goals is more due to luck than judgment as well as the team as a whole being very organised and able to cover for his shit mistakes. I'd rather not see him again and prevent that from actually happening, because if he continues to play he will be at fault for at least one goal. It's only a matter of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What's actually wrong with Dummett? Don't start. In terms of on the ball play he makes Danny Simpson's passing from the back look like Dani Alves's. I'm a massive defender of Paully D like, but aye, it's pretty clear what his limitations are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What's actually wrong with Dummett? Don't start. In terms of on the ball play he makes Danny Simpson's passing from the back look like Dani Alves's. Injury wise I meant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Mbemba should be starting like. This basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 At the end of the day from my point of view, its not just the on the ball stuff. I think Dummett's defensive ability is vastly overrated. His lack of being able to turn his body is a massive issue. Also, Manquillo reminds me of a less good Santon, who I preffered over Dummett anyway, might have something to do with my thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Mbemba is injured. Was in the team before he got injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What's actually wrong with Dummett? Don't start. In terms of on the ball play he makes Danny Simpson's passing from the back look like Dani Alves's. Injury wise I meant I was wondering what was going on. I think a couple of others read it the wrong way as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Rafa must not rate Mbemba at all. Manquillo is pretty poor defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 What's actually wrong with Dummett? Don't start. In terms of on the ball play he makes Danny Simpson's passing from the back look like Dani Alves's. Injury wise I meant aye that makes sense now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Mbemba is injured. Was in the team before he got injured. Has there been any confirmation of that though? He just kind of suddenly disappeared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Mbemba is injured. Was in the team before he got injured. Has there been any confirmation of that though? He just kind of suddenly disappeared. Well he went off injured for his country and everyone said he would be out for three months. Then Rafa said it wouldn't be that long. He was in training pictures this week, but was so Haidara, so I presume he isn't fully fit yet given he was in the team before he got injured and did well. Then again, you know what Rafa is like and was ruthless with him last season based on not following his instructions and we lose last game he played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Rafa took him off in his last game for us too after we conceded from a set piece which Mbemba lost his man (was fouled) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I think, with Mbemba, it comes down to purely the struggle with English; not sure Rafa has confidence in his ability to communicate or understand pitch instructions. Dummett is no better than Manquillo, Manquillo offers more in the last third, Dummett on the defensive end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Manquillo offers nothing in the final third Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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