Disco Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, B-more Mag said: Yep. I think Forest fans will really be excited for Cooper to put Jizz on the team sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 4 hours ago, gazza ladra said: Right, “Bruno” at “United”. I know exactly who you’re talking about. Your Bruno has a long way to go before he's compared with our Bruno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Just now, Froggy said: Your Bruno has a long way to go before he's compared with our Bruno. Not that long. Roughly a few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Just now, Flip said: Not that long. Roughly a few days. I genuinely hope he smashes a hat trick past Henderson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 4 hours ago, gazza ladra said: Right, “Bruno” at “United”. I know exactly who you’re talking about. Still clueless this end ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I wouldn't swap Guimaraes for Fernandes. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, elbee909 said: I wouldn't swap Guimaraes for Fernandes. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Every club has lunatics in their fanbase. In all seriousness he's come in and become a hero in half a season. I can understand why you're all so attached to him. It's not too dissimilar to Fernandes when he came in, but Guimarães isn't at that level yet. Different positions anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Respectfully, don't especially agree with you. I give you that he hasn't tailed off like Fernandes has, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, elbee909 said: Respectfully, don't especially agree with you. I give you that he hasn't tailed off like Fernandes has, yeah. Fernandes 21/22: 89 chances created in the PL (2nd) 15 big chances created in the PL (5th) Most assists in the CL 10 goals 13 assists Suppose it depends on your definition of tailed off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Froggy said: Fernandes 21/22: 89 chances created in the PL (2nd) 15 big chances created in the PL (5th) Most assists in the CL 10 goals 13 assists Suppose it depends on your definition of tailed off. That does look impressive. Shall we have a ‘Bruno-off’ comp this season? I know you don’t have CL football anymore, but we’d have to exclude any Europa League stuff. After pre-season my money would definitely be on ours getting more yellow cards ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: That does look impressive. Shall we have a ‘Bruno-off’ comp this season? I know you don’t have CL football anymore, but we’d have to exclude any Europa League stuff. After pre-season my money would definitely be on ours getting more yellow cards ? I'm not sure about that. Our Bruno is a wonderfully talented footballer, but he's a petulant child. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Froggy said: Fernandes 21/22: 89 chances created in the PL (2nd) 15 big chances created in the PL (5th) Most assists in the CL 10 goals 13 assists Suppose it depends on your definition of tailed off. Fair enough, the data don't lie! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Froggy said: I'm not sure about that. Our Bruno is a wonderfully talented footballer, but he's a petulant child. You might be right, not sure I’d even win the yellow card challenge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Sounds like a clown to go to Everton over West Ham unless the wage difference is insane. Could be enjoying some sweet wages in the championship in a year’s time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, gbandit said: Sounds like a clown to go to Everton over West Ham unless the wage difference is insane. Could be enjoying some sweet wages in the championship in a year’s time Comes over as a deluded, entitled little scamp. No idea if he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Nice to see some clubs still sticking by their wage structure. No surprise to see others ignoring it completely and just throwing money around recklessly. That worked so well for Everton in recent years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 employee closer employer who pays the most is somehow deluded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Everton making use of those Covid losses. Fuck me man how were they allowed to get away with that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: employee closer employer who pays the most is somehow deluded? There’s more at play than just wages here. Is the team you’re going to, going to develop you as a player, as you’re only 20 years old. What’s the team dynamic like, the area you’re moving to etc. if the wage difference between the two clubs is huge then it’s understandable, if it’s not that far apart but Everton offer higher I think it’s a poor choice to go to a team that only just survived relegation last season and have lost their best player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Just now, gbandit said: There’s more at play than just wages here. Is the team you’re going to, going to develop you as a player, as you’re only 20 years old. What’s the team dynamic like, the area you’re moving to etc. if the wage difference between the two clubs is huge then it’s understandable, if it’s not that far apart but Everton offer higher I think it’s a poor choice to go to a team that only just survived relegation last season and have lost their best player If you look at things in purely sporting terms sure, west ham is better but given both teams are unlikely to win anything it doesn’t matter. in fact, given West ham seem ok financially it’s like the would struggle to move on if things go well due to demand a high fee. Also, maybe it’s a case of Everton offering a high salary plus release clauses as they have the weaker negotiating position than west ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 It's impossible to know what's going on in someone else's head but if it was me and I was 20 years old, I would like to think that the thing that would mean the most to me would be developing to be the best player I could be. I'd be looking at clubs and coaches who have a track record of developing players and that would be a big motivating factor for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Just now, gbandit said: It's impossible to know what's going on in someone else's head but if it was me and I was 20 years old, I would like to think that the thing that would mean the most to me would be developing to be the best player I could be. I'd be looking at clubs and coaches who have a track record of developing players and that would be a big motivating factor for me Rice aside who have West ham brought through? if I’m the player or the players agent I’ll be looking for Salary/bonuses plus release clause. The romantic era is long gone, football is a business players know this, the owners definitely know it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Players like Bowen, Antonio, Cresswell, Rice and Fornals are all players who have improved a lot with West Ham. Rice is the main one they’ve brought through but as a 20 year old I’d be looking at how players have fared there in their early 20s when they’re developing. Anyway, I can’t argue with the fact it’s all business and that numbers on a sheet are the major factor nowadays. However, if I was looking at Everton seriously I’d want to know how they fared last season, did they look like a good place to play football and develop and the answer to that would be easy to come to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Rice aside who have West ham brought through? Do they not have a long history of bringing through quality youth players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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