Other clubs' transfers

[leffe186]

3 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

 

Phew

[SteV]

16 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

 

What’s that, somewhere in the region of £100k - £150k per game, plus wages?

 

Wow.

[Joelinton7]

Villa? How… why?

[Ben]

1 minute ago, Joelinton7 said:

Villa? How… why?

 

Ambition and there not PSR Pussys 

[SteV]

11 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

Villa? How… why?

Feels like they’re gambling the house on getting back into CL. 
 

Not sure that’s too clever…

[brummie]

Just now, SteV said:

Feels like they’re gambling the house on getting back into CL. 
 

Not sure that’s too clever…

gambling the house how? Three loan signings plus Malen plus we’ve sold 85m worth in this window.  

 

We’ve got plenty of money, we just can’t spend it as we want for the same reasons you can’t. 
 

The difference is we make a ton of money selling players too. 

[Mike]

Genuinely thought Willian was already at Fulham.

[Infinitely Content]

I’d be a lot wiser to reserve judgement but I do feel that their 3 recent signings are poor, albeit they’re just loans. 
 

They give the impression of spectacle signings which work out for a few games and come crashing down, somewhat like Coutinho - although this crop aren’t half as talented as he was.

[KaKa]

21 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

Villa? How… why?

 

Villa have managed their money better than us the last four years.

 

Their manager is also more open to bringing in temporary loans.

 

It's really quite simple.

[SteV]

8 minutes ago, brummie said:

gambling the house how? Three loan signings plus Malen plus we’ve sold 85m worth in this window.  

 

We’ve got plenty of money, we just can’t spend it as we want for the same reasons you can’t. 
 

The difference is we make a ton of money selling players too. 

At 96% wages to turnover ratio. Bringing in players on higher wages than the ones you’re selling. Obviously the money from this seasons CL will help enormously, and you have to assume the people in charge aren’t being completely reckless - but I’m very intrigued to see how they get anywhere near the 70% that’s supposed to be needed going forward.

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by SteV

[Boey_Jarton]

5 minutes ago, brummie said:

gambling the house how? Three loan signings plus Malen plus we’ve sold 85m worth in this window.  

 

We’ve got plenty of money, we just can’t spend it as we want for the same reasons you can’t. 
 

The difference is we make a ton of money selling players too. 

Ton of money seriously boosted by our ownership group ironically enough 

[brummie]

6 minutes ago, SteV said:

At 96% wages to turnover ratio. Bringing in players on higher wages than the ones you’re selling. Obviously the money from this seasons CL will help enormously, and you have to assume the people in charge aren’t being completely reckless - but I’m very intrigued to see how they get anywhere near the 70% that’s supposed to be needed going forward.

 

 

 

 

They're here for possibly as little as four months each, so it's not a multi year commitment to stupid wages. We're in the last 16 of the CL, and clearly in need of a shot in the arm. 

 

Football is for fun, fuck it, have a go at it. The alternative was what, mook about fretting about wage bills?

 

The people running us are not stupid, they are aware of the rules

 

Again, I keep saying this, but we are really clever in the way we move players around. We've sold two youth products twice each in the last season and a half because of clever sales deals. We've just booked, what, £50m profit on a player who wasn't even a regular starter for us, who we bought from the MLS.

[Village Idiot]

Aparrently we're getting €20m off the Nico transfer! Pep throwing us a bone here.

 

(tbf I quite liked Nico when he was here and wished we'd given him more of a run)

[et tu brute]

12 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Villa have managed their money better than us the last four years.

 

Their manager is also more open to bringing in temporary loans.

 

It's really quite simple.

They've sold a good few players for decent fees is the reason 

[brummie]

10 minutes ago, SteV said:

At 96% wages to turnover ratio. Bringing in players on higher wages than the ones you’re selling. Obviously the money from this seasons CL will help enormously, and you have to assume the people in charge aren’t being completely reckless - but I’m very intrigued to see how they get anywhere near the 70% that’s supposed to be needed going forward.

 

 

 

 

Revenue for this season is massively up already - £70m earnings from UEFA alone in the CL this season, that's not including matchday revenue, significantly more lucrative sponsorship and shirt deals, a youth policy that generates decent revenue, astute spending, clever recruitment (Tielemans and Kamara for no transfer fee) - the NBA commercial bloke (who is a massive wanker) they brought in has the target of hitting £400m revenue asap.

 

For years the club was run like a corner shop, and that didn't stop when Ellis fucked off, Lerner was the same, threw money at it but had zero idea how to run a football club. Finally, people who understand it, and have the money to back it in charge.

[KaKa]

Just now, et tu brute said:

They've sold a good few players for decent fees is the reason 

 

Yeah it's all part of managing their money better.

[Pablo]

12 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Villa have managed their money better than us the last four years.

 

Their manager is also more open to bringing in temporary loans.

 

It's really quite simple.

Villa got an obscene amount for Grealish. Without that they wouldn’t have been able to have a go. They sold a 50m player for twice his value, and have been excellent ever since they replaced their fraud managers.

if we could have sold one of our wingers, ASM. Miggy or Murphy for a similar amount, we would be title challengers now. Sad thing is, we spent good money on all of them. Shows the value of building your own ‘superstars’

[toon25]

1 hour ago, leffe186 said:

Phew

He's really not very good

[Mike]

5 minutes ago, brummie said:

Football is for fun, fuck it, have a go at it. The alternative was what, mook about fretting about wage bills?

 

[Astroblack]

Wrong thread 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Astroblack

[SteV]

10 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

Revenue for this season is massively up already - £70m earnings from UEFA alone in the CL this season, that's not including matchday revenue, significantly more lucrative sponsorship and shirt deals, a youth policy that generates decent revenue, astute spending, clever recruitment (Tielemans and Kamara for no transfer fee) - the NBA commercial bloke (who is a massive wanker) they brought in has the target of hitting £400m revenue asap.

 

For years the club was run like a corner shop, and that didn't stop when Ellis fucked off, Lerner was the same, threw money at it but had zero idea how to run a football club. Finally, people who understand it, and have the money to back it in charge.

Enough to reduce the wages to turnover ratio by 25%+, despite the wage bill presumably increasing?

 

Obviously none of us know the actual answer to that. And you are right, in that it’s more fun to concentrate on the actual football rather than all this malarkey.

[Joelinton7]

37 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Villa have managed their money better than us the last four years.

 

Their manager is also more open to bringing in temporary loans.

 

It's really quite simple.

So why are they chucking all of that good planning in the bin and going for short term big names on expensive wages?

[KaKa]

3 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

So why are they chucking all of that good planning in the bin and going for short term big names on expensive wages?

 

What?!

 

Because it's January and they are players the manager wants to bring in?

[Joelinton7]

2 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

What?!

 

Because it's January and they are players the manager wants to bring in?

I’m not sure we’d do it even without PSR issues. It’s just bad future planning. They’re gambling for CL.

[KaKa]

2 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

I’m not sure we’d do it even without PSR issues. It’s just bad future planning. They’re gambling for CL.

 

Well they're not Newcastle and they are going about it the way they see fit.

 

I also doubt any of us have enough information to know whether they are gambling or not.