leffe186 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 20:17, The Butcher said: Expand Phew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 20:17, The Butcher said: Expand What’s that, somewhere in the region of £100k - £150k per game, plus wages? Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Villa? How… why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 20:49, Joelinton7 said: Villa? How… why? Expand Ambition and there not PSR Pussys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 20:49, Joelinton7 said: Villa? How… why? Expand Feels like they’re gambling the house on getting back into CL. Not sure that’s too clever… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:01, SteV said: Feels like they’re gambling the house on getting back into CL. Not sure that’s too clever… Expand gambling the house how? Three loan signings plus Malen plus we’ve sold 85m worth in this window. We’ve got plenty of money, we just can’t spend it as we want for the same reasons you can’t. The difference is we make a ton of money selling players too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Genuinely thought Willian was already at Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I’d be a lot wiser to reserve judgement but I do feel that their 3 recent signings are poor, albeit they’re just loans. They give the impression of spectacle signings which work out for a few games and come crashing down, somewhat like Coutinho - although this crop aren’t half as talented as he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 20:49, Joelinton7 said: Villa? How… why? Expand Villa have managed their money better than us the last four years. Their manager is also more open to bringing in temporary loans. It's really quite simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) On 03/02/2025 at 21:04, brummie said: gambling the house how? Three loan signings plus Malen plus we’ve sold 85m worth in this window. We’ve got plenty of money, we just can’t spend it as we want for the same reasons you can’t. The difference is we make a ton of money selling players too. Expand At 96% wages to turnover ratio. Bringing in players on higher wages than the ones you’re selling. Obviously the money from this seasons CL will help enormously, and you have to assume the people in charge aren’t being completely reckless - but I’m very intrigued to see how they get anywhere near the 70% that’s supposed to be needed going forward. Edited February 3 by SteV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boey_Jarton Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:04, brummie said: gambling the house how? Three loan signings plus Malen plus we’ve sold 85m worth in this window. We’ve got plenty of money, we just can’t spend it as we want for the same reasons you can’t. The difference is we make a ton of money selling players too. Expand Ton of money seriously boosted by our ownership group ironically enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:13, SteV said: At 96% wages to turnover ratio. Bringing in players on higher wages than the ones you’re selling. Obviously the money from this seasons CL will help enormously, and you have to assume the people in charge aren’t being completely reckless - but I’m very intrigued to see how they get anywhere near the 70% that’s supposed to be needed going forward. Expand They're here for possibly as little as four months each, so it's not a multi year commitment to stupid wages. We're in the last 16 of the CL, and clearly in need of a shot in the arm. Football is for fun, fuck it, have a go at it. The alternative was what, mook about fretting about wage bills? The people running us are not stupid, they are aware of the rules Again, I keep saying this, but we are really clever in the way we move players around. We've sold two youth products twice each in the last season and a half because of clever sales deals. We've just booked, what, £50m profit on a player who wasn't even a regular starter for us, who we bought from the MLS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Aparrently we're getting €20m off the Nico transfer! Pep throwing us a bone here. (tbf I quite liked Nico when he was here and wished we'd given him more of a run) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:12, KaKa said: Villa have managed their money better than us the last four years. Their manager is also more open to bringing in temporary loans. It's really quite simple. Expand They've sold a good few players for decent fees is the reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:13, SteV said: At 96% wages to turnover ratio. Bringing in players on higher wages than the ones you’re selling. Obviously the money from this seasons CL will help enormously, and you have to assume the people in charge aren’t being completely reckless - but I’m very intrigued to see how they get anywhere near the 70% that’s supposed to be needed going forward. Expand Revenue for this season is massively up already - £70m earnings from UEFA alone in the CL this season, that's not including matchday revenue, significantly more lucrative sponsorship and shirt deals, a youth policy that generates decent revenue, astute spending, clever recruitment (Tielemans and Kamara for no transfer fee) - the NBA commercial bloke (who is a massive wanker) they brought in has the target of hitting £400m revenue asap. For years the club was run like a corner shop, and that didn't stop when Ellis fucked off, Lerner was the same, threw money at it but had zero idea how to run a football club. Finally, people who understand it, and have the money to back it in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:26, et tu brute said: They've sold a good few players for decent fees is the reason Expand Yeah it's all part of managing their money better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:12, KaKa said: Villa have managed their money better than us the last four years. Their manager is also more open to bringing in temporary loans. It's really quite simple. Expand Villa got an obscene amount for Grealish. Without that they wouldn’t have been able to have a go. They sold a 50m player for twice his value, and have been excellent ever since they replaced their fraud managers. if we could have sold one of our wingers, ASM. Miggy or Murphy for a similar amount, we would be title challengers now. Sad thing is, we spent good money on all of them. Shows the value of building your own ‘superstars’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 20:21, leffe186 said: Phew Expand He's really not very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:23, brummie said: Football is for fun, fuck it, have a go at it. The alternative was what, mook about fretting about wage bills? Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Wrong thread Edited February 3 by Astroblack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:27, brummie said: Revenue for this season is massively up already - £70m earnings from UEFA alone in the CL this season, that's not including matchday revenue, significantly more lucrative sponsorship and shirt deals, a youth policy that generates decent revenue, astute spending, clever recruitment (Tielemans and Kamara for no transfer fee) - the NBA commercial bloke (who is a massive wanker) they brought in has the target of hitting £400m revenue asap. For years the club was run like a corner shop, and that didn't stop when Ellis fucked off, Lerner was the same, threw money at it but had zero idea how to run a football club. Finally, people who understand it, and have the money to back it in charge. Expand Enough to reduce the wages to turnover ratio by 25%+, despite the wage bill presumably increasing? Obviously none of us know the actual answer to that. And you are right, in that it’s more fun to concentrate on the actual football rather than all this malarkey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:12, KaKa said: Villa have managed their money better than us the last four years. Their manager is also more open to bringing in temporary loans. It's really quite simple. Expand So why are they chucking all of that good planning in the bin and going for short term big names on expensive wages? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:50, Joelinton7 said: So why are they chucking all of that good planning in the bin and going for short term big names on expensive wages? Expand What?! Because it's January and they are players the manager wants to bring in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:55, KaKa said: What?! Because it's January and they are players the manager wants to bring in? Expand I’m not sure we’d do it even without PSR issues. It’s just bad future planning. They’re gambling for CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 03/02/2025 at 21:59, Joelinton7 said: I’m not sure we’d do it even without PSR issues. It’s just bad future planning. They’re gambling for CL. Expand Well they're not Newcastle and they are going about it the way they see fit. I also doubt any of us have enough information to know whether they are gambling or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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