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31 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

I havent seen him play all that much outside of the Euros, but is West Ham paying 27m and offering a 4 year contract to Fullkrug, who'll be 32 in February a bit mad. 

 

I think it's pretty poor business, personally.

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Just now, nufc123 said:

"negotiations are ongoing to discuss under value of £65m clause". Why would Bournemouth entertain that.

My guess would be more favourable terms as in player going their way or more money up front. 

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2 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

Toney aside I’m not sure who they could realistically get that would be better. There’s obviously something putting teams off Toney.

 

He's a dick head. Literally.

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2 hours ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

Could be an age thing. Anyone who didn't experience the 90's may think our hatred of the red clubs is a bit weird.

 

I think everyone completely understands the hatred that was born out of jealousy.

 

It's the modern day agenda that we're bottom half plodders with an incompetent manager now that is a bit weird, especially after we've just won our second trophy in as many seasons despite having more injuries than anyone else over said seasons.

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11 minutes ago, Froggy said:

It's the modern day agenda that we're bottom half plodders with an incompetent manager now that is a bit weird, especially after we've just won our second trophy in as many seasons despite having more injuries than anyone else over said seasons.


It’s not really weird though for anyone who has seen you play under EtH and the underlying stats are horrible.

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19 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

I think everyone completely understands the hatred that was born out of jealousy.

 

It's the modern day agenda that we're bottom half plodders with an incompetent manager now that is a bit weird, especially after we've just won our second trophy in as many seasons despite having more injuries than anyone else over said seasons.

 

Jealousy is certainly a part of it but it's not the main reason why there's such a deep rooted hatred. It's more to do with the sense of entitlement and the media bias towards the clubs for what seems like forever.

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29 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

I think everyone completely understands the hatred that was born out of jealousy.

 

It's the modern day agenda that we're bottom half plodders with an incompetent manager now that is a bit weird, especially after we've just won our second trophy in as many seasons despite having more injuries than anyone else over said seasons.

Not just jealousy of success mind. I’d say more so the arrogance of the fan base (albeit a Manc trait) and the fact (for the older lot) they were one of the main culprits for fan violence and where the reason fences were erected so there was no love lost there. My grandad who’s coming up to 10yrs gone (actually died just shy of 101 the morning of the weekend you crashed at mine funnily enough!) used to say your fans were the worst for troublemaking and I can back that up by saying the only away days I’ve suffered verbal and physical threats were my visits to Old Trafford in the mid to late 90’s and that was with my old man and brother keeping a low profile. Much worse than any visit to Roker Park or SOL.

 

Then you’ve got the fact now that its an open secret with retire officials coming out and confirming how much Fergie had them them in his pocket which although denied at the time was plain to see with opposing teams. 

 

Then you probably had that celebrity nature of a lot of them jumping on the Man Utd bandwagon and claiming their support when asked in interviews which would probably also come under the jealousy that you mentioned. So there wasn’t a lot to like.

 

For the record I say this all whilst having a soft spot for them when I was a school kid (due to lack of TV coverage of other teams) and Bryan Robson was probably one of my favourite English players if not favourite player when growing up. Used to always want them to beat Liverpool back in the day. Remember looking forward to the new season starting and you’d just signed Jesper Olsen and were first game on MOTD (typically) and drew 1-1 at OT against Watford in that distinct strip with the white bands around the armpits. Think you won the FA Cup that season with the Whiteside goal against Everton.

 

 

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I agree that Solanke is no world beater. 

However he would improve Spurs and give them a better focal point through the middle. Seeing as they finished ahead of us last year and he improves them, then I would rather they didn't get him, even if they are potentially overpaying. 

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16 minutes ago, Big River said:

oh look, another thread talking about Man Utd :lol: and people whinge about them having a dedicated thread... this is why.

 

p.s Frog is a wanker and his team is shite

 

:lol: I was just winding you all up there to be fair I didn't mean to start a serious discussion.

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3 hours ago, jack j said:

Aye that's more of my point though. They have been a laughing stock by their standards last couple of seasons yet they've still won 2 cups. They won't be as bad again this season. They will be challenging top 4 I reckon. Can see Liverpool struggling this season more than man u

 

 

 


Not for me. Liverpool still have some star power, especially in attack. Salah has looked physically strong this pre season, and him banging in a 30 goal season will see Liverpool right up there.

 

Man Utd don’t have that, and either need one of the younger players to really break out, or Rashford to have his purple season to get back up there.

 

At best it’ll be 4th but could be 7th again, if the gap isn’t that big. Man Utd won’t ever fall lower because of the sheer size of club and how they can rack up billion of debt and still compete. A major global recession probably only thing that could fuck them royally. 

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