Other clubs' transfers

[Froggy]

We weren't miles off last year despite a disaster season and we've massively strengthened our two weakest areas. We'll be fine.

[Guest Yerdas El Savon]

We weren't miles off last year despite a disaster season and we've massively strengthened our two weakest areas. We'll be fine.

 

You have one of the worst, if not the worst, manager in the league. And, yes, I am including Steve Bruce in that.

[The Prophet]

Wan Bissaka is a top signing, one of the best right backs in the league. Personally think Maguire is overrated but still an improvement on what Man United have.

[Fitzgerald]

Bruce and solskjaer are the 2 worst like

[Froggy]

We weren't miles off last year despite a disaster season and we've massively strengthened our two weakest areas. We'll be fine.

 

You have one of the worst, if not the worst, manager in the league. And, yes, I am including Steve Bruce in that.

 

What's this based on again? A poor couple of months with Cardiff?

[Guest neesy111]

We weren't miles off last year despite a disaster season and we've massively strengthened our two weakest areas. We'll be fine.

 

You have one of the worst, if not the worst, manager in the league. And, yes, I am including Steve Bruce in that.

 

What's this based on again? A poor couple of months with Cardiff?

 

+ the shambolic end of season you had.

[Froggy]

We weren't miles off last year despite a disaster season and we've massively strengthened our two weakest areas. We'll be fine.

 

You have one of the worst, if not the worst, manager in the league. And, yes, I am including Steve Bruce in that.

 

What's this based on again? A poor couple of months with Cardiff?

 

+ the shambolic end of season you had.

 

It would take a monumental idiot to blame that on Solskjaer like.

[Astroblack]

Arsenal have had a great window.

[Guest Yerdas El Savon]

We weren't miles off last year despite a disaster season and we've massively strengthened our two weakest areas. We'll be fine.

 

You have one of the worst, if not the worst, manager in the league. And, yes, I am including Steve Bruce in that.

 

What's this based on again? A poor couple of months with Cardiff?

 

+ the shambolic end of season you had.

 

 

He will not last long.

[Guest chopey]

Arsenal have had a great window.

 

I still think their defence is very poor

[Ketsbaia]

Man Utd's squad is better than Chelsea's tbf.

[Guest chopey]

I don't think any team has had a great window considering we have the richest league in the world.

[Froggy]

We weren't miles off last year despite a disaster season and we've massively strengthened our two weakest areas. We'll be fine.

 

You have one of the worst, if not the worst, manager in the league. And, yes, I am including Steve Bruce in that.

 

What's this based on again? A poor couple of months with Cardiff?

 

+ the shambolic end of season you had.

 

 

He will not last long.

 

Lets be clear here

 

• He won 14 out of 19 games in charge.
  
• He broke a club record for consecutive away victories.
  
• Equalled a Premier League record by winning his first 6 games in charge.
  
• He won Premier League manager of the month and was the first Man United manager to do so since Sir Alex.
  
• He was the first Man United manager to score 5 in a game since Sir Alex.
  
• He was the first Man United manager to win his first 5 games since Sir Matt Busby.
  
• He was the first manager in Champions League history to progress after losing the home leg by 2 goals or more.
  

 

He did all that while introducing Chong/Garner/Greenwood into the team. You're judging him because we lost a couple of extremely difficult away games (Arsenal/Wolves) and then fell out of contention and it was basically season over. Don't forget the season was basically over when he came and he managed to get us in contention for top 4, which was quite frankly a miracle.

 

Truth is none of us know just how good of a manager he is. Based on his short, record breaking tenure so far though, it's idiotic to say he's shite.

 

 

[Guest Yerdas El Savon]

We weren't miles off last year despite a disaster season and we've massively strengthened our two weakest areas. We'll be fine.

 

You have one of the worst, if not the worst, manager in the league. And, yes, I am including Steve Bruce in that.

 

What's this based on again? A poor couple of months with Cardiff?

 

+ the shambolic end of season you had.

 

 

He will not last long.

 

Lets be clear here

 

• He won 14 out of 19 games in charge.
  
• He broke a club record for consecutive away victories.
  
• Equalled a Premier League record by winning his first 6 games in charge.
  
• He won Premier League manager of the month and was the first Man United manager to do so since Sir Alex.
  
• He was the first Man United manager to score 5 in a game since Sir Alex.
  
• He was the first Man United manager to win his first 5 games since Sir Matt Busby.
  
• He was the first manager in Champions League history to progress after losing the home leg by 2 goals or more.
  

 

He did all that while introducing Chong/Garner/Greenwood into the team. You're judging him because we lost a couple of extremely difficult away games (Arsenal/Wolves) and then fell out of contention and it was basically season over. Don't forget the season was basically over when he came and he managed to get us in contention for top 4, which was quite frankly a miracle.

 

Truth is none of us know just how good of a manager he is. Based on his short, record breaking tenure so far though, it's idiotic to say he's s****.

 

He had a long honeymoon period against fairly easy opposition. Then he got the job full time and everything went to shit.

 

We'll see who's right, but I don't think he's nowhere near ready/ good enough for a job of that size.

[Froggy]

A honeymoon period is 3/4 games, not half a season. It's amazing what some managers can do and not be given credit for. You say fairly easy opposition and we beat Spurs away, Chelsea away, Arsenal away, Leicester away and drew with Liverpool. Easy aye.

[Guest Yerdas El Savon]

A honeymoon period is 3/4 games, not half a season. It's amazing what some managers can do and not be given credit for. You say fairly easy opposition and we beat Spurs away, Chelsea away, Arsenal away, Leicester away and drew with Liverpool. Easy aye.

 

We beat Leicester away, but he got som good results, I'll give him that.  Who's to blame for the poor run then?

[Froggy]

A honeymoon period is 3/4 games, not half a season. It's amazing what some managers can do and not be given credit for. You say fairly easy opposition and we beat Spurs away, Chelsea away, Arsenal away, Leicester away and drew with Liverpool. Easy aye.

 

We beat Leicester away, but he got som good results, I'll give him that.  Who's to blame for the poor run then?

 

You also beat Man City. Rafa truly did wonders.

 

As above we lost two games that were extremely difficult. The Cardiff and Huddersfield results came when the season was basically over. Heads dropped all over the place. The dressing room was a massive problem and he seems to be tackling that head on.

 

I'll just never understand people completely writing off a manager before he is even able to prove himself, especially Solskjaer who won 14 out of 19 games in charge. In general, especially given the state of the club when he inherited the job, he has done fantastic.

[jdckelly]

I'm surprised Man Utd let Lukaku go without having a replacement ready to sign immediately, they made some good signings (eventually in the case of Maguire) but really they needed to do more imho. Personally I doubt OGS will be there next season but unless man utd are bottom half or something he'll probably see the season out before getting the boot.

[Guest Yerdas El Savon]

A honeymoon period is 3/4 games, not half a season. It's amazing what some managers can do and not be given credit for. You say fairly easy opposition and we beat Spurs away, Chelsea away, Arsenal away, Leicester away and drew with Liverpool. Easy aye.

 

We beat Leicester away, but he got som good results, I'll give him that.  Who's to blame for the poor run then?

 

You also beat Man City. Rafa truly did wonders.

 

As above we lost two games that were extremely difficult. The Cardiff and Huddersfield results came when the season was basically over. Heads dropped all over the place. The dressing room was a massive problem and he seems to be tackling that head on.

 

I'll just never understand people completely writing off a manager before he is even able to prove himself, especially Solskjaer who won 14 out of 19 games in charge. In general, especially given the state of the club when he inherited the job, he has done fantastic.

 

He also led the team to their worst run in 57 years. He has the worst win percentage of any permanent Man Utd manager in their entire 141-year history.

 

We'll see...

[Froggy]

Very cherry picked but aye we will see. I think you'll be surprised.

[triggs]

A honeymoon period or new manager bounce can absolutely last more than 3 or 4 games. There's literally loads of examples of managers having a good half season or season and then going shite when they get figured out. See Pardew at us and Palace, Martin O'Neill and basically every other new manager at Sunderland for years, Martinez at Everton, Shakespeare at Leicester, Roeder at us, etc.

[Guest chopey]

Very cherry picked but aye we will see. I think you'll be surprised.

 

Whats your best team and formation Froggy if the current crop are all fit ?

[leffe186]

NBC's (I know, I know) transfer grades:

 

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2019/08/08/premier-league-transfer-grades/

 

Arsenal B+

Aston Villa B+

Bournemouth C

Brighton C+

Burnley D

Chelsea C-

Crystal Palace D

Everton B+

Leicester B

Liverpool C

Man City B

Man U B+

Newcastle C

Norwich D

Sheff Utd C+

Southampton C+

Spurs A-

Watford B+

West Ham B+

Wolves C

 

I think you have to give Arsenal more credit because the expectations were so low at the beginning of the window. Ramsey had gone for nothing, and the thinking was that without CL they would (a) be reluctant to spend big and (b) the big guys wouldn't want to go there. I think they've had an amazing window. You could ask whether they've sorted out their defence, but it's not like they did nothing, and Saliba could be a great long-term get. You have to grade Aston Villa highly simply on the basis of the extraordinary amount they've spent, although obviously it remains to be seen whether it will work. All they will want to do is stay up, for now. Bournemouth probably did enough, Burnley probably didn't, and God only knows what Brighton will look like.  Palace kept Zaha and at least picked up a handful of mediocre-but-probably-well-suited players. Everton and Leicester grades are fair, Liverpool kinda did what we did last year, and Man City upgraded a touch.

 

I'm in the camp that thinks Man U did pretty well. I really like their options going forward even though there's no star goalscorer, and I think Wan-Bissaka would be a terrific buy even if he wasn't addressing a serious need. Sure, they spent a ton, but they have a ton, and like Arsenal they would have expected to struggle to attract the really big guys. Not convinced that OGS is the answer at all, mind.

 

In theory your window isn't too bad, but losing Rafa and bringing in Bruce makes the whole exercise almost academic. Norwich are clearly playing it safe and hoping they're stable enough to maybe edge ahead of three other teams. Sheff Utd have done enough to make things interesting if they hit the ground running. No idea about Southampton's new guys tbh but it sounds like they've made additions where they wanted to. Watford made their usual savvy and faintly dodgy buys, and West Ham may finally have got a proper couple of forwards. Not sure why they graded Wolves so low - feels like they pretty clearly upgraded the squad and they held onto Jiminez and Dendoncker, spending a lot of money in the process.

 

As for us - well I think A- might be generous but I really can't complain at all. After spending literally nothing on transfers last year yet still achieving top 4 and the CL final, we had to spend. If rumours are true, Poch wanted Ndombele, Lo Celso, and Sessegnon, so, you know, that'll do. Keeping Alderweireld was a quiet triumph, although I guess there's still a chance both him and Eriksen will leave for Europe (and Danny Rose too?). Of the three I'd - somewhat weirdly - rather lose Eriksen, because of the guys we've brought in. Ask me in September how good this window's been.

[Disco]

Iwobi is a proper stats man signing, talent is there but unsure he’ll ever fulfil his potential.

[Froggy]

I'm in the camp that thinks Man U did pretty well. I really like their options going forward even though there's no star goalscorer, and I think Wan-Bissaka would be a terrific buy even if he wasn't addressing a serious need. Sure, they spent a ton, but they have a ton, and like Arsenal they would have expected to struggle to attract the really big guys. Not convinced that OGS is the answer at all, mind.

 

Wan-Bissaka wasn't addressing a serious need? He was addressing the most serious need. No more Ashley Young at RB. Signing a RB was priority number one this summer.