Wilson Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I mean, fair enough yes he has made some mistakes so far this season (every manager makes mistakes), he also made mistakes in the Championship and last season, but where we end up is what counts, 1st in the Championship and top half last season, let's have some patience and understand that he is working wonders under an owner who is deliberately trying to fuck him over, and focus our discontent firmly on the ONE person responsible for fucking up Newcastle United. I honestly don't understand why any 'Newcastle fans' think anything other than this. There's just no arguing/convincing/reasoning with some idiots people and it's not worth the debate. Sad state of affairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I mean, fair enough yes he has made some mistakes so far this season (every manager makes mistakes), he also made mistakes in the Championship and last season, but where we end up is what counts, 1st in the Championship and top half last season, let's have some patience and understand that he is working wonders under an owner who is deliberately trying to fuck him over, and focus our discontent firmly on the ONE person responsible for fucking up Newcastle United. I honestly don't understand why any 'Newcastle fans' think anything other than this. There's just no arguing/convincing/reasoning with some idiots people and it's not worth the debate. Sad state of affairs. But the football is so rubbish!! Didn't everyone slate Pardew for the exact same thing!!?? Forgetting that Rafa's methods are proven over a season, aren't based on pure fucking luck and magic, and Pardew was actually given our most technically gifted team in fuck knows how long after our lucky run in the transfer market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I mean, fair enough yes he has made some mistakes so far this season (every manager makes mistakes), he also made mistakes in the Championship and last season, but where we end up is what counts, 1st in the Championship and top half last season, let's have some patience and understand that he is working wonders under an owner who is deliberately trying to fuck him over, and focus our discontent firmly on the ONE person responsible for fucking up Newcastle United. I honestly don't understand why any 'Newcastle fans' think anything other than this. There's just no arguing/convincing/reasoning with some idiots people and it's not worth the debate. Sad state of affairs. I think you do in fact understand, given that you correctly called them idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Rafa's record last season against the top 6, he's too negative though ammirite!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 More wins against the top six last season than Liverpool, same amount as Chelsea and more points than Arsenal. Should be having a go though, it's embarrassing and the players will be embarrassed. Would much rather lose 5-4 in those games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 More wins against the top six last season than Liverpool, same amount as Chelsea and more points than Arsenal. Should be having a go though, it's embarrassing and the players will be embarrassed. Would much rather lose 5-4 in those games. Rafa Bingo full house there [emoji23] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 So only 2 outside the top 6 scored more than us, and no one conceded less than us Pundits are mugs man, think Rafa fucking Benitez knows what he's doing like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Rafa's record last season against the top 6, he's too negative though ammirite!?! Fucking mental, isn't it? Weren't some 'pundits' claiming that Rafa's approach to these games only 'ends one way', too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The difference was the players' ball retention against Chelsea and last season against Man City was really, really poor. Was much better against Man Utd who we beat, Arsenal who we beat and Liverpool who we drew against. Chelsea last season was the definition of a dead rubber with everyone knowing Conte was gone so I've hated the comparisons to that game to the one this season people have made so I'm not going to include that. The problem is not the approach/tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Rafa's record last season against the top 6, he's too negative though ammirite!?! Fucking mental, isn't it? Weren't some 'pundits' claiming that Rafa's approach to these games only 'ends one way', too? Only team not in the top 6, in the top 6 there. Clearly Rafa doesn't know what he's doing and we should go toe to toe with the likes of Chelsea, better to lose 6-0 and feel like we gave it a shot than 1-0 win/loss or 0-0 and "give them too much respect". Idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Once bitten twice shy is our Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Enjoyed this: Love Steve Howey, hate Craig Bellamy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 The pricks on Soccer Saturday are about to discuss/humiliate Rafa in the next 5 mins if you want a pre game fume. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 The pricks on Soccer Saturday are about to discuss/humiliate Rafa in the next 5 mins if you want a pre game fume. Same shit, different day. It was just the usual I’ll-informed generalisation bullshit. No context whatsoever. I’m shocked quite frankly, Paul Merson is normally so insightful and accurate ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Do they talk about other managers in such derogatory terms? It seems more like a witch hunt. We played the same against City last season and they were all praising him by the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Not watching it but one of the comments was we probably wanted Chelsea to win because of the way we set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Didn't see the game but does seem a bit weird we were so defensive against Chelsea considering how shaky they looked at the back against Arsenal, especially at home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 As bad as this lot are, Steve McMahon was spectacularly stupid on the debate last night, he made the claim that Newcastle wouldn't be any better if Rafa was given £200m to spend, so why give him any money to spend? Then he repeated it a couple of times later in the conversation as if it's a great point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Didn't see the game but does seem a bit weird we were so defensive against Chelsea considering how shaky they looked at the back against Arsenal, especially at home I think it looked that way because our ball retention particularly in the second half was really poor. We seemed to turnover the ball almost as soon as we got it due to inaccurate hoofs so there was no chance to exploit their defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Not one of the spineless cunts even thought about posing the question of why there was a need to shut up shop. Not one comment at all bringing up the lack of investment and profit made since Rafa joined. Wish I'd not watched it now, even Stelling was taking the piss the utter twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 As bad as this lot are, Steve McMahon was spectacularly stupid on the debate last night, he made the claim that Newcastle wouldn't be any better if Rafa was given £200m to spend, so why give him any money to spend? Then he repeated it a couple of times later in the conversation as if it's a great point. What?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 It was £100m, but that doesn't make it any less brain-dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'm sure he threw a few numbers in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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