geordiedean Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Robson's era was great, but nothing will ever come close to what Keegan brought to the club. Maybe not but if bobby had what keegan had no one would have touched us wed have pissed that league for 2 or 3 seasons. Keegans time was unbelievable fun and ultimately typical nufc disappointment but tactically he wasn't on the same planet as Bobby Bobby would'nt have touched us with a bargepole when you consider where Keegan picked us up from quite astounding what he achieved and how far he lifted us dont think anybody else could have done it. I was referring more to the opinion that if bobby was manager for 94/95 or 95/96 or 96/97 with that squad hed have won the league no doubt on at least 2 occasions He was streets ahead as a tactician than Keegan was, When the going got tough with Keegan he crumbled as we seen after the Leeds Game. He was all good when everything was going great and running along smoothly but with other clubs not only us and England of course when things got tough he chucked it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Robson's era was great, but nothing will ever come close to what Keegan brought to the club. Maybe not but if bobby had what keegan had no one would have touched us wed have pissed that league for 2 or 3 seasons. Keegans time was unbelievable fun and ultimately typical nufc disappointment but tactically he wasn't on the same planet as Bobby Bobby would'nt have touched us with a bargepole when you consider where Keegan picked us up from quite astounding what he achieved and how far he lifted us dont think anybody else could have done it. I was referring more to the opinion that if bobby was manager for 94/95 or 95/96 or 96/97 with that squad hed have won the league no doubt on at least 2 occasions He was streets ahead as a tactician than Keegan was, When the going got tough with Keegan he crumbled as we seen after the Leeds Game. He was all good when everything was going great and running along smoothly but with other clubs not only us and England of course when things got tough he chucked it Imagine what we would have won if Sir Bobby stuck by his original word to take over us after KK left in January 1997? It’s horrible to think actually! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Robson's era was great, but nothing will ever come close to what Keegan brought to the club. Exactly right. Been watching those years back and they were unreal. We were completely spoiled watching that football, it was immense. Tried to get myself in the mood for our last match by watching the highlights from the 95/96 season and it had the complete wrong effect. Instead of getting me up for the match it just made me realise how utter boring and shit it is now. We will never get those days back. Same here. The whole Keegan era was a magical ride. For me it's: Keegan Harvey Robson Benitez That's how highly I regard Rafa; he deserves to be alongside our legends. When he leaves it will be devastatingly depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfrederi Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Robson's era was great, but nothing will ever come close to what Keegan brought to the club. Maybe not but if bobby had what keegan had no one would have touched us wed have pissed that league for 2 or 3 seasons. Keegans time was unbelievable fun and ultimately typical nufc disappointment but tactically he wasn't on the same planet as Bobby Bobby would'nt have touched us with a bargepole when you consider where Keegan picked us up from quite astounding what he achieved and how far he lifted us dont think anybody else could have done it. I was referring more to the opinion that if bobby was manager for 94/95 or 95/96 or 96/97 with that squad hed have won the league no doubt on at least 2 occasions He was streets ahead as a tactician than Keegan was, When the going got tough with Keegan he crumbled as we seen after the Leeds Game. He was all good when everything was going great and running along smoothly but with other clubs not only us and England of course when things got tough he chucked it Harsh on Keegan he had plenty of tough times in first season and stuck the course turned us around (even with the mini walkout) the last two games of that season where probably the most crucial of our modern history god knows what would have happened had we gone down that year. He was'nt the first International manager to find himself out of his depth at that level I wish Graham Taylor had done the same. Whether Bobby would have done any better is a Moot point mebbes in the two latter years. Just wish that he had succeeded Keegan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Robson's era was great, but nothing will ever come close to what Keegan brought to the club. Maybe not but if bobby had what keegan had no one would have touched us wed have pissed that league for 2 or 3 seasons. Keegans time was unbelievable fun and ultimately typical nufc disappointment but tactically he wasn't on the same planet as Bobby Oh yeah, SBR was tactically a better manager, but Keegan wasn't just about the trophies, he lit the place up. His enthusiasm and reach for the stars attitude was infectious, the whole city was bouncing when he was in charge. Just something about having him as our leader which seemed right even if he wasn't tactically perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Remarkable only 4 Premier League teams have conceded less than Rafa this season Has to be the best Newcastle team defensively we’ve ever seen in the Premier League? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Makes a massive difference when he gets the players who can make his system work like it's designed to. Almiron is obviously a game changer, and he had to wait for a year to get him. Imagine if he was allowed that sort of quality at wing back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Remarkable only 4 Premier League teams have conceded less than Rafa this season Has to be the best Newcastle team defensively we’ve ever seen in the Premier League? The best I've seen organisationally, definitely. My mate still reckons Woodgate looking after Bramble and the rest just beats it, but not for me. Remarkable really because individually our full/wing backs aren't great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Remarkable only 4 Premier League teams have conceded less than Rafa this season Has to be the best Newcastle team defensively we’ve ever seen in the Premier League? The best I've seen organisationally, definitely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 take the hatred of ashley out of it he's building a really nice squad of players and system, would love him to stay and keep at it but ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Remarkable only 4 Premier League teams have conceded less than Rafa this season Has to be the best Newcastle team defensively we’ve ever seen in the Premier League? The best I've seen organisationally, definitely. I concur, certainly in my 40 years of attending. Would be interested to hear Crumpy's take on this. Or possibly not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Remarkable only 4 Premier League teams have conceded less than Rafa this season Has to be the best Newcastle team defensively we’ve ever seen in the Premier League? The best I've seen organisationally, definitely. Would be interested to hear Crumpy's take on this. Or possibly not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Remarkable only 4 Premier League teams have conceded less than Rafa this season Has to be the best Newcastle team defensively we’ve ever seen in the Premier League? The best I've seen organisationally, definitely. I concur, certainly in my 40 years of attending. Would be interested to hear Crumpy's take on this. Or possibly not. He got banned didn't he? Not that he'd show his face anyway after a win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Apparently he is already making plans for next season. I read a few days ago he wants 4 or 5 players in the summer if he stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Apparently he is already making plans for next season. I read a few days ago he wants 4 or 5 players in the summer if he stays. He will be acting like he’s staying as that’s the way he works and the ball is very much in Ashley’s court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Loved the tactics against 10 men - loads of width, stretched them out, incisive runs and passes back inside. It’s much easier to create a good defence, imo, but a foundation is so important to build an attack on. Yesterday felt like we had the tactical balance he loves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Almiron and Longstaff show clearly what he wants of the club and it's not a lot. Modest investment in players and a focus on bringing through players from the academy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 That's his last game then as he's off to Leicester now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 That's his last game then as he's off to Leicester now. Fuck off man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 https://www.soccerstats.com/trends.asp?league=england Some pretty amazing trends there - check out the 'Goals' tab. We are major outliers in goals per game for both teams, less than 48% of our matches have a total of 3 goals or more, with only 2 matches with 4 goals and 1 match with 5. The absolute epitomy of the genius of Rafa Benitez, we don't get tonked and working within our means. Our matches also have the lowest average goals per game of 2.15 which is well below any other side. Other interesting stats, only Huddersfield, Wolves and Arsenal have not had a 0-0 this season, and surprisingly, Arsenal (27%) have been involved in more matches than Fulham (26%) having 5 or more goals scored for any given match. Also, only Huddersfield (10) have lost more games than us (9) by a single goal, but as a percentage of overall loses we seem to be involved in more narrow defeats that anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2017 - 18 P27 W7 D7 L13 F25 A36 -11 28 points 2018 - 19 P27 W7 D7 L13 F24 A34 -10 28 points Consistency ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Makes a massive difference when he gets the players who can make his system work like it's designed to. Almiron is obviously a game changer, and he had to wait for a year to get him. Imagine if he was allowed that sort of quality at wing back. Fulham spent 120 mill and are effectively down in February. Imagine if Rafa had been properly backed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Makes a massive difference when he gets the players who can make his system work like it's designed to. Almiron is obviously a game changer, and he had to wait for a year to get him. Imagine if he was allowed that sort of quality at wing back. Fulham spent 120 mill and are effectively down in February. Imagine if Rafa had been properly backed. If Rafa had been properly backed then we would at least be the best of the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Makes a massive difference when he gets the players who can make his system work like it's designed to. Almiron is obviously a game changer, and he had to wait for a year to get him. Imagine if he was allowed that sort of quality at wing back. Fulham spent 120 mill and are effectively down in February. Imagine if Rafa had been properly backed. If Rafa had been properly backed then we would at least be the best of the rest. If we keep improving the forward areas with quality like Almiron then Rafa will have us 7th and pushing. I think a striker like Haller or Willian Jose in the Summer to give Rondon strong competition and another inside forward like Almiron(Someone like Saint Maximin) would have us challenging for 7th/best of the rest. Defensively we are already Top 6 stats wise for the whole of the last calendar year. We just need to add a few more quality attacking players like Almiron then we will have the balance To be where Wolves and Watford are isn’t that big of a jump. We have to keep adding more attacking quality though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 And it won’t happen because yet again it would need the fat leopard to change his spots and will never. So as exciting as this has all been the only question they matters is what now for Rafa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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