HaydnNUFC Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 More points than last season. More wins than last season. Less defeats than last season. More goals than last season. Better goal difference than last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 He must be having his meeting with Ashley early this week with Ashley at the match today. Fat cunt will be awy on holiday tomorrow, just watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 It seems to me that, since about 2013, it has become quite a popular thing to say "I'm done if/when..." I dare say I've said it myself but truthfully I've often been dubious about that whole attitude: both towards the person saying it as well as wondering if I could personally do it - completely remove myself. Even at my most detached - during 2014/15 when I was travelling and barely saw any games - when things really seemed at their most hopeless for differing reasons over the course of that season - I was still on here virtually every day, checking all the results and feeling something. Even if it was hatred or anger, or happiness if we'd had a bad result which have might forced Pardew closer to the exit. If Rafa goes, though, I honestly don't know where I'm going to turn to. I certainly don't want to go back to wishing ill on the club, because that felt toxic and unhealthy. I honestly think it'd be bad for my health to uphold that level of negativity towards something I should feel pride for. I felt desperately, desperately low at certain times during those travelling adventures; there were several reasons but I'm certain that the state of NUFC must have contributed. I have so dearly loved falling in love with the club again. Feeling like I can love the managers and the players, and feel ecstacy, heartbreak and anger - in spite of Ashley - has been brilliant and worlds away from 14/15. In terms of the games themselves, I'm personally on a hot streak at SJP since Rafa came in: five visits and five fantastic wins, culminating in the Everton game this season which genuinely might be my best ever - certainly top three. Not just Newcastle, but I've followed the sport more closely again - following every story in the Premier League, newspapers, podcasts, absolutely adored the World Cup, been playing in a 5-a-side team for a couple of years now; just totally consuming myself in the sport whenever I can. I'll talk about it with friends and strangers. I've been to the games. I bought tickets for a talk-in at the Sage. I wear a (recent) Newcastle shirt. I must have sketched about twenty shite portraits of NUFC-related people. I've got a picture of the manager as the background of my phone, like a 9-year-old. When the club was at its most hateful, I wasn't doing half of that. The interest was obviously well and truly there, but it was either extremely negative or just kind-of an interest in passing. Which ever way he's done it; Rafa has single-handedly dragged my personal experience of football from the doldrums to just-about everything it should be. I know he's been paid handsomely and it's his job (and, ffs, anyone should be delighted to have the opportunity to manage us) - but we all know his calibre and we all know he should be at a club with far greater stature and ambition than us. I'm so, so grateful for the three-and-a-half years he's given us. So coming back to the "I'm done," thing. If he leaves: it's not just a popular manager leaving; it would be the tragic, needless and basically malevolent end to something which literally affects my mental health-and-well-being in a positive way. Because if you can't succeed (and he has succeeded) and endure with a person like this, then this regime offers no hope of anything I can have pride in. Bit dramatic, I know, but I think I'd have to force myself to be 'done'. It would be immeasurably preferable to turning the hate tap straight back on. In all seriousness, top post and how I feel pretty much too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 If Rafa leaves, it’s an act of self-harm and anti-ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 You’re saying that as if English Tim Sherwood didn’t personally rear Harry Kane and make Spurs great again after the tyranny of AVB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 It seems to me that, since about 2013, it has become quite a popular thing to say "I'm done if/when..." I dare say I've said it myself but truthfully I've often been dubious about that whole attitude: both towards the person saying it as well as wondering if I could personally do it - completely remove myself. Even at my most detached - during 2014/15 when I was travelling and barely saw any games - when things really seemed at their most hopeless for differing reasons over the course of that season - I was still on here virtually every day, checking all the results and feeling something. Even if it was hatred or anger, or happiness if we'd had a bad result which have might forced Pardew closer to the exit. If Rafa goes, though, I honestly don't know where I'm going to turn to. I certainly don't want to go back to wishing ill on the club, because that felt toxic and unhealthy. I honestly think it'd be bad for my health to uphold that level of negativity towards something I should feel pride for. I felt desperately, desperately low at certain times during those travelling adventures; there were several reasons but I'm certain that the state of NUFC must have contributed. I have so dearly loved falling in love with the club again. Feeling like I can love the managers and the players, and feel ecstacy, heartbreak and anger - in spite of Ashley - has been brilliant and worlds away from 14/15. In terms of the games themselves, I'm personally on a hot streak at SJP since Rafa came in: five visits and five fantastic wins, culminating in the Everton game this season which genuinely might be my best ever - certainly top three. Not just Newcastle, but I've followed the sport more closely again - following every story in the Premier League, newspapers, podcasts, absolutely adored the World Cup, been playing in a 5-a-side team for a couple of years now; just totally consuming myself in the sport whenever I can. I'll talk about it with friends and strangers. I've been to the games. I bought tickets for a talk-in at the Sage. I wear a (recent) Newcastle shirt. I must have sketched about twenty shite portraits of NUFC-related people. I've got a picture of the manager as the background of my phone, like a 9-year-old. When the club was at its most hateful, I wasn't doing half of that. The interest was obviously well and truly there, but it was either extremely negative or just kind-of an interest in passing. Which ever way he's done it; Rafa has single-handedly dragged my personal experience of football from the doldrums to just-about everything it should be. I know he's been paid handsomely and it's his job (and, ffs, anyone should be delighted to have the opportunity to manage us) - but we all know his calibre and we all know he should be at a club with far greater stature and ambition than us. I'm so, so grateful for the three-and-a-half years he's given us. So coming back to the "I'm done," thing. If he leaves: it's not just a popular manager leaving; it would be the tragic, needless and basically malevolent end to something which literally affects my mental health-and-well-being in a positive way. Because if you can't succeed (and he has succeeded) and endure with a person like this, then this regime offers no hope of anything I can have pride in. Bit dramatic, I know, but I think I'd have to force myself to be 'done'. It would be immeasurably preferable to turning the hate tap straight back on. In all seriousness, top post and how I feel pretty much too. Snap. I won't be renewing my ST if Rafa doesn't stay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Top post Yorkie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 If he leaves it certainly makes it easier to take a step back. The negativity isn’t good for the mental health at all. Funnily enough, Manchester United supporters are heading into the same sort of choppy waters. They’re in a bad way currently.. certainly not as bad as what we’ve gone through but even despite Ashley, our first team is in slightly better shape then their (currently) I can’t wait to see how many of their tourist supporters stick with them after a few years of total irrelevance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Print that fucking post out and send it to the man himself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 It was 11 days after the Spurs 5-1 match where it was confirmed Rafa was staying on. I’m expecting a similar sort of timeframe here, if we don’t hear in the next 10-14 days, he’s gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Definitely, club's essentially got until the end of the month not to fuck it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Why didn't the talks start after we were confirmed to be staying in the league? This just seems like delaying tactics from Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Why didn't the talks start after we were confirmed to be staying in the league? This just seems like delaying tactics from Ashley I'm pretty sure they'd have been talking the whole time tbh. The question is whether Ashley signs off on the outcomes imho. That's the purpose of the meeting with him this week. Charnley is merely the middle man/messenger boy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 If there is any hope of the club fat cunt giving Rafa what he wants needs, then I would expect Rondon to be signed by the end of this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 If there is any hope of the club fat cunt giving Rafa what he wants needs, then I would expect Rondon to be signed by the end of this week. Unless he says no to Rondon, but agrees x amount to bring in Rondons younger 'replacement'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 If there is any hope of the club fat cunt giving Rafa what he wants needs, then I would expect Rondon to be signed by the end of this week. Unless he says no to Rondon, but agrees x amount to bring in Rondons younger 'replacement'. I doubt Rafa will sign on the basis of promises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Honestly, if Ashley fucks this up It's not hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 If there is any hope of the club fat cunt giving Rafa what he wants needs, then I would expect Rondon to be signed by the end of this week. Unless he says no to Rondon, but agrees x amount to bring in Rondons younger 'replacement'. I doubt Rafa will sign on the basis of promises. Nah definitely not. I'm not sure what can convince him to stay tbh...even signing Rondon now shouldn't change anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Tbh we don't know exactly what he is asking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlouismag Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Honestly, if when Ashley fucks this up It's not hard. FYP. May not be now, may not be this summer, but we all know Ashley's petty, toxic, over-active ego will eventually, spectacularly fuck it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Tbh we don't know exactly what he is asking for. Well we know a few things he wants. We also know that if it's took this long to come to an agreement, that Ashley is being his usual self and has no intention of changing his ways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Right, who's on "meeting watch" then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Wouldn't surprise me if Ashley tried to replace him with Hughton now he's available in the hope he'll placate fans because he was popular here and has proven to be a merry go round option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Rafa’s contract will expire and he’ll never hear from Ashley Charnley again. There will be no meeting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Wouldn't surprise me if Ashley tried to replace him with Hughton now he's available in the hope he'll placate fans because he was popular here and has proven to be a merry go round option. Fairly certain Hughton would tell him to stick his offer up his arse after the way he was treated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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