Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Everton seem to have a good first 11 but as soon as you get beyond that they become a liability. Saying that they were only missing Doucoure, DCL and Richarlison today, who are all mint, but doesnt explain the defensive capitulation. That must be their first choice back 5 (inc. GK) today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Everton seem to have a good first 11 but as soon as you get beyond that they become a liability. Saying that they were only missing Doucoure, DCL and Richarlison today, who are all mint, but doesnt explain the defensive capitulation. That must be their first choice back 5 (inc. GK) today. A lot of individuals errors from the goals i saw. he’s spent nothing but the expectations seem to be high, he’s likely in for a tough time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Rafa is too loyal for his own good. Fuck Everton man, come back here. He's going to get the sack there at some stage, its inevitable because the fans are stinking and will never take to him. He'll be supported here through thick and thin. Finish the project man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Honestly would worry a bit with him here now. The expectations will be different and I couldn't bare it if fans turned on the beautiful man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 How long will Everton's FFP restrictions be in place if they can't raise commercial revenues significantly? Looks like Rafa is back to being under Ashley scenario all over again. Whilst Everton's Chairman wants to spend, they can't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Inferior Acuña said: Honestly would worry a bit with him here now. The expectations will be different and I couldn't bare it if fans turned on the beautiful man. Fair point. There we’re already a few monumental thick cunts who went with the narrative of Bruce doing better than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 What the christ do Everton fans think should be happening with that squad I wonder? If you take out DCL & Richarlison (which has more or less been the case all season) it's mid table at absolute best imo no matter who is managing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I echo the feelings of him coming back and failing , I just don’t want it to happen to him . “Never go back” , a true saying I loved Rafa , he’s a top bloke but personally I don’t want him back now for this reason because it could just happen wether we think it would or not, some great memories and what could have been , let’s leave it at that and move on . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, GWN said: I echo the feelings of him coming back and failing , I just don’t want it to happen to him . “Never go back” , a true saying I loved Rafa , he’s a top bloke but personally I don’t want him back now for this reason because it could just happen wether we think it would or not, some great memories and what could have been , let’s leave it at that and move on . Same. His time here is done and we move on. Much prefer Fonseca coming in and bringing something different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Dokko said: Same. His time here is done and we move on. Much prefer Fonseca coming in and bringing something different. Although I really like the sound of Fonseca's playing philosophy, I do worry that it's going to take a lot of work to get this squad playing his football. We just can't afford that now, we're heading down and need someone who can get the current squad playing effective football. There is no better man for that than Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 5 hours ago, cosmic said: How long will Everton's FFP restrictions be in place if they can't raise commercial revenues significantly? Looks like Rafa is back to being under Ashley scenario all over again. Whilst Everton's Chairman wants to spend, they can't Maybe they should have voted against banning sponsorship from related companies.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just read that Everton fans were chanting for Rondon to be sent off yesterday Weird bunch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bintang Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I don't want him back. His time here was the only time in the Ashley era that I felt connected to the club. I'd rather leave that be. There are not many examples of managers going back to clubs and it being a success. I wish KK had never come back because of the way it turned out. It is best to just leave the past as the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, cosmic said: How long will Everton's FFP restrictions be in place if they can't raise commercial revenues significantly? Looks like Rafa is back to being under Ashley scenario all over again. Whilst Everton's Chairman wants to spend, they can't It doesn't look like it's going to turn around any time soon, the limit is a total loss of £105m over three seasons. Their past three accounts showed: 17/18 £13m loss 18/19 £112m loss 19/20 £140m loss (doesn't count towards FFP due to Covid) So unless they make a big profit this year that 18/19 loss is also going to keep them from spending next season. But, those losses are not just from transfer fees and the transfer fees are obviously being heavily deferred, even if they're not actually buying players right now they're clearly still paying instalments (£125m liabilities in their most recent accounts) and running at an operating loss excluding player trading. Edited October 24, 2021 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: It doesn't look like its going to turn around any time soon, the limit is a total loss of £105m over three seasons. Their past three accounts showed: 17/18 £13m loss 18/19 £112m loss 19/20 £140m loss (doesn't count towards FFP due to Covid) So unless they make a big profit this year that 18/19 loss is also going to keep them from spending next season. But, those losses are not just from transfer fees and the transfer fees are obviously being heavily deferred, even if they're not actually buying players right now they're clearly still paying instalments (£125m liabilities in their most recent accounts) and running at an operating loss excluding player trading. This FFP stuff is just ridiculous. You have a team that can’t spend money even though they have it because their commercial revenues aren’t sky high. So all it does is keep the top teams at the top because they have the most revenue and can spend the most. You can’t grow commercially without getting better players and spending money, the whole things is anti-competitive and needs a major rethink Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just now, andyc35i said: This FFP stuff is just ridiculous. You have a team that can’t spend money even though they have it because their commercial revenues aren’t sky high. So all it does is keep the top teams at the top because they have the most revenue and can spend the most. You can’t grow commercially without getting better players and spending money, the whole things is anti-competitive and needs a major rethink Yeah, It's clearly just set up to protect the current top clubs' position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Which makes it all the more ridiculous that the other 13 voted for it and this new restriction on related party sponsorship. It's like people in Blyth voting tory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 The amount of money Everton have spent to stand still or even go backwards maybe tells us that it's going to be a lot more difficult for us to break through than it was with Man City Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/rafael-benitez.113286/page-815 100 pages of fume, fat shaming and delusion. Enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, triggs said: The amount of money Everton have spent to stand still or even go backwards maybe tells us that it's going to be a lot more difficult for us to break through than it was with Man City don't think there's anything new in that you've got to hit the right targets and management team, as it ever was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Love them saying hes destroyed their solid defence. I’ve never seen us look so solid defensively than under Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I'm sure they conceded goals for fun under Ancelotti too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dokko said: https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/rafael-benitez.113286/page-815 100 pages of fume, fat shaming and delusion. Enjoy. Such a sense of entitlement among that lot. Fucking rotten club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dokko said: https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/rafael-benitez.113286/page-815 100 pages of fume, fat shaming and delusion. Enjoy. Oh dear ??♂️ it’s going to end in tears for him! Dammed if he does, damned if he doesn’t! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Dokko said: https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/rafael-benitez.113286/page-815 100 pages of fume, fat shaming and delusion. Enjoy. Poor Steve Bruce though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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