Rafa Benítez (now unemployed)

[Dokko]

4 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Who would they get to replace him? Potter? Lampard?

 

Nuno most likely. If they feel adventurous serial interviewee, Fonseca.

[Fantail Breeze]

Another dreadful performance. Don’t see how he turns this around.

We were slow starters under him but nowhere near this crap.

 

[Fantail Breeze]

1 minute ago, Dokko said:

 

Nuno most likely. If they feel adventurous serial interviewee, Fonseca.

 

If they appointed Nuno I’d make them one of the favourites for the drop. A club on a downward spiral should not be appointing a manager on the same trajectory.

[TRon]

Doesn't look like the Everton players are buying into Rafa's methods. His sides are shipping goals left right and centre, and that's not what you would expect from one of his sides. 

[toon25]

Will depend on who they'll afford and who'll accept working with the shite they've got together in that squad.

 

Still miss Rafa, though, mind. Moreso after hearing that interview after the City game. 

[Kid Icarus]

Still maintain that if he's given the time and he gets his players back that they'd be my tip to nab 6th with a late run of form. Starting to doubt he'll be given the opportunity though.

[Fantail Breeze]

Over the last 10 games, Everton are the only team below us in the form table. Wow.

 

Have also scored less and conceded more.

[jack j]

1 minute ago, kisearch said:

Still maintain that if he's given the time and he gets his players back that they'd be my tip to nab 6th with a late run of form. Starting to doubt he'll be given the opportunity though.

Absolutely no chance. Lost the dressing room as well as the fans imo

[thomas]

  

1 minute ago, TRon said:

Doesn't look like the Everton players are buying into Rafa's methods. His sides are shipping goals left right and centre, and that's not what you would expect from one of his sides. 

I'll always love him for his time here and I think the Everton fan's reaction early in the season was all a bit OTT.

 

But at some point [narrator: "here thomas wraps up the win for Worst Poster 2021"] we may have to consider he's entered The Mourinho Zone - where once top managers are unable to replicate success and the line of saying it's all the players' fault wears thin.

[Superior Acuña]

Reckon when you're unpopular right from the off you've very little chance of success. Not many manage to overcome that (some do for a bit ). Rafa managed that situation at Chelsea, but add in Everton's deeper problems and things not clicking with the players for some reason. He's fucked now. Given everything was essential he had a decent first half season.

[Dokko]

worst run in 22 years.

 

He's racking up the records. Fair play.

[Heron]

Love Rafa me. 

[TRon]

1 minute ago, thomas said:

  

I'll always love him for his time here and I think the Everton fan's reaction early in the season was all a bit OTT.

 

But at some point [narrator: "here thomas wraps up the win for Worst Poster 2021"] we may have to consider he's entered The Mourinho Zone - where once top managers are unable to replicate success and the line of saying it's all the players' fault wears thin.

 

I don't think it helps that he followed Ancelotti who had some success with a much more adventurous style. Managers like Rafa and Mourinho know their stuff, but it's only going to work if the players are into it 100%. This Everton squad already look a bit sick of it. 

[Wolfcastle]

Just now, Dokko said:

worst run in 22 years.

 

He's racking up the records. Fair play.

 

Would that be the Mike Walker team?

What they did then is bring in Joe Royle and launch it to the big lads packing the box for set-plays, were basic, ugly, brutal to watch. Keegan described them as 'dogs of war' when they kicked lumps out of us and wasted time from the start.

Sounds like a job for Bruce to me

[Paully]

It was never going to work there - look at their fans’ banners when it was speculated.

 

if only he had of waited a few months…….he must be gutted about that 

 

[Kid Icarus]

12 minutes ago, jack j said:

Absolutely no chance. Lost the dressing room as well as the fans imo

They're 6 points off 6th. It's absolutely possible. Not sure about the dressing room but hard to argue with him having lost (if he ever had) the fans. Stand by what I say if he gets the time and gets his players back, but that's a massive if.

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

19 minutes ago, thomas said:

  

I'll always love him for his time here and I think the Everton fan's reaction early in the season was all a bit OTT.

 

But at some point [narrator: "here thomas wraps up the win for Worst Poster 2021"] we may have to consider he's entered The Mourinho Zone - where once top managers are unable to replicate success and the line of saying it's all the players' fault wears thin.

Mourinho zone? This is flattery. He is in the Bruce zone. We do not have to euphemise because he is liked here. Guy is going to rightfully be sacked for taking a side that was challenging for Europe last season and sending them hurtling towards the relegation zone in haste. They were not even able to progress in the League Cup. Nothing in Mourinho's career has been anything like this disaster at Everton. 

 

He should just take whatever funds they will give him to go away, take a rest, and find new opportunity to start over. He is a proven manager; it will not be an issue for him. 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Segun Oluwaniyi

[Heron]

Rafa Benitez: Director of Football #NUFC 

[wormy]

1 minute ago, Heron said:

Rafa Benitez: Director of Football #NUFC 

 

For the love of God no.

 

[The Prophet]

Mourinho has never taken on a challenge as large as Everton before. Especially with no cash to spend.

[Decky]

1 minute ago, Heron said:

Rafa Benitez: Director of Football #NUFC 

Came to post this. I’d take it but would Howe be happy with that? It’s his call, Rafa has missed the boat with us now. 

[Beth]

31 minutes ago, kisearch said:

Still maintain that if he's given the time and he gets his players back that they'd be my tip to nab 6th with a late run of form. Starting to doubt he'll be given the opportunity though.

Can I have a few pints of what you've been drinking please.

[Fantail Breeze]

5 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Mourinho has never taken on a challenge as large as Everton before. Especially with no cash to spend.

 

Don’t buy that too much at all. Everton’s squad is no worse than Arsenal’s, for example. Yet they’re eight points and nine places behind them.

 

Teams like Brighton, Brentford and Palace above them. Getting knocked out the cup by QPR.

 

He’s underperforming with the resources at his disposal, regardless of what transfer budget he has or hasn’t had.

[thomas]

I want to be clear that I wasn't directly comparing their circumstances in career, just the twin qualities of this situation and ones Mourinho found himself in towards the end -

 

1. Results consistently under par + comments about decreased managerial ability / dressing room / "outdated" tactics etc

2. A defense being offered that it's actually just the players fault for not going along with grand plans

 

I also wasn't saying he's necessarily already in that zone just that he's on the precipice.

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by thomas

[Beth]

Just now, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Don’t buy that too much at all. Everton’s squad is no worse than Arsenal’s, for example. Yet they’re eight points and nine places behind them.

 

Teams like Brighton, Brentford and Palace above them. Getting knocked out the cup by QPR.

 

He’s underperforming with the resources at his disposal, regardless of what transfer budget he has or hasn’t had.

Careful, you're not allowed to criticise wor Rafa on here........