brummie Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Rod said: Basically I'm repeating what 99% of fans on here think and that is Bruce was fecking shite. Ha ha, I'm a Villa fan. Trust me, you don't need to convince me of that on Bruce. I remember the likes of Graham Turner and Billy McNeill, and Bruce for us is right down there with those two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Ace said: Think the worst part of Bruce was how he just peddled Ashley’s lines and played on all the media biases against us to try and excuse his incompetence while pretending to be one of the fans. Yeah, he's a fucking dreadful political operator who looks after number one, and - and I don't know if this happened with you, but it did with us - even used to get his idiot fucking son weighing in on twitter. Gerrard was a clueless, obnoxious cunt, but Bruce was a different type of obnoxious, 'not my fault' wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, brummie said: Yeah, he's a fucking dreadful political operator who looks after number one, and - and I don't know if this happened with you, but it did with us - even used to get his idiot fucking son weighing in on twitter. Gerrard was a clueless, obnoxious cunt, but Bruce was a different type of obnoxious, 'not my fault' wanker. Yeah his son was terrible and his mates in the media just chatted shit. You kept hearing he was a nice guy but every time he got a question that wasn’t sugarcoated he’d strop like and radge like a bairn. Nothing was his fault. 2 years in it was Rafas fault we were negative yet Howe cast off all his shit in a couple of months. Dean Smith did similar with you. Also he’s a slumlord so doubly fuck him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, Rod said: Basically I'm repeating what 99% of fans on here think and that is Bruce was fecking shite. It’s equally that the bloke was an utter cunt as well. Him and his cunt of a son crying on TalkSport about receiving non-existent death threats. Hate him so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Walked away with how many million was it? 8? Awful, awful bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Playing Devil’s advocate, but it’s not hard to see why people defended Bruce tbh. We finished 13th and 12th under him, which imo was on paper around par or overachieving if anything. We finished comfortably above mastermind Graham Potter’s Brighton I believe. Of course his managerial qualities were still terrible, his overall attitude even worse and he was well defended by his mates in the media, but we shouldn’t be that shocked by the “he did as well as Rafa” comments because a lot of football fans will just look at the table and not follow other teams closely enough to see what the football was like. Thankfully Howe’s brilliance combined with Bruce’s car crash performance at West Brom have proven he’s a fraud to most people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Absolutely had it up to here with people defending Bruce, even with a "Devil's Advocate" disclaimer (and especially on the Rafa Benitez thread.) The hell with him and his ghastly son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, St. Maximin said: Playing Devil’s advocate, but it’s not hard to see why people defended Bruce tbh. We finished 13th and 12th under him, which imo was on paper around par or overachieving if anything. We finished comfortably above mastermind Graham Potter’s Brighton I believe. Of course his managerial qualities were still terrible, his overall attitude even worse and he was well defended by his mates in the media, but we shouldn’t be that shocked by the “he did as well as Rafa” comments because a lot of football fans will just look at the table and not follow other teams closely enough to see what the football was like. Thankfully Howe’s brilliance combined with Bruce’s car crash performance at West Brom have proven he’s a fraud to most people. Maybe but that's down to the 'look at the top line/results, fuck the context' method of analysis and punditry that plagues this country. Bruce took over Benitez' team that was playing nice stuff at the back end of 2018-19 and despite losing Rondon and Perez had added £65m worth of talent to it in ASM, Joelinton, Krafth and Willems on loan. Those first 7 games were embarrassing from a tactical perspective and he reverted to using a 5-4-1 after we got annihilated at Leicester which was a lot less nicer on the eye than the 3-4-3 we were using at the back end of 2018-19. That 5-4-1 was reeling from the benefits of Benitez' coaching and from October-December we were picking up results. Then injuries, rushing players back etc saw us bring in 3 loans: Bentaleb, Rose, Lazaro. Bentaleb was atrocious, Rose meh and Lazaro the best of the trio who also got played the least. We limp past two League One teams via replays in the FA Cup before West Brom away which for the first 50 minutes was probably the best we played under Bruce pre COVID. He then intervened with his wank substitutions, conceded twice late on and end up hanging on at the end before having a fucking giggle about it, "this job should come with a health warning", so you fat gormless globule, its your shite game management that sees us hanging on you fucking clueless bastard. The last game pre COVID was the win away at Southampton which practically saw us safe. Post lockdown we were a total shambles, two wins against Sheffield United and Bournemouth aside the rest of that season and the whole of 2020-21 was the most miserable I've been as a Newcastle fan since the second half of 2013-14. Bruce consistently patronised the fans, talked down, embarrassed the club and got away with it due to the lack of crowds. ASM and Willock saved him post March. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Why are we talking about Bruce in Rafa thread? absolutely disrespect imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 15 hours ago, Rod said: In my opinion he's the worst manager I have seen at Newcastle so that makes him shit! From being tactically pathetic and literally no idea how to implement certain players in their correct positions to his absolutely disgraceful dialogue with the press/media and him constantly bigging up the opposition no matter who we were playing. Well I am staggered how any sensible football fan can defend the useless knacker. The worst? I'm not so sure. I can name many a manager that would be classed as worse overall but they all come under different attributes or stigmas where fans and memory serves each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: He did okay whilst having little influence? Then started doing shite after that increased? Funny that. What do you mean by having little influence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I think people are being a bit harsh on Bruce, after all he did recommend Howe as his successor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hozzo Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Can't 'this person' have his own thread (which can then be avoided) it can be titled 'Cunt' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, El Hozzo said: Can't 'this person' have his own thread (which can then be avoided) it can be titled 'Cunt' Harsh on poor magvicar. It's just his opinion, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, magvicar said: What do you mean by having little influence? "You can't change things overnight" or whatever Bruce's famous quote was. Quote Steve Bruce is not impressed by suggestions Newcastle United’s players are confused by his frequently shifting tactics. “I think that’s the biggest insult I can have,” he said. “Graham Potter changed Brighton’s formation four times during last week’s game [a 0-0 home draw]. Graham’s radically changed Brighton’s style and I want to change my team’s too, but I won’t do it radically. It’ll be gradual, it won’t be overnight.” So they basically changed nowt early on into Bruce's reign as, by his own admission, it wasn't possible to do so. Then a year and a half later.... Quote “We’ve made no excuse,” said United's head coach. “We’re doing something different, which is always difficult to implement. Still spouting the same old shite about tactics taking forever to implement. Edited April 13, 2023 by Dr.Spaceman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, GideonShandy said: Absolutely had it up to here with people defending Bruce, even with a "Devil's Advocate" disclaimer (and especially on the Rafa Benitez thread.) The hell with him and his ghastly son. Sorry mate this is ridiculous. Trying to show some understanding and this is the response . It’s an interesting kind of ‘defending’ when I’m agreeing with everyone that he’s a moron. Edited April 13, 2023 by St. Maximin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 7 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: Maybe but that's down to the 'look at the top line/results, fuck the context' method of analysis and punditry that plagues this country. Bruce took over Benitez' team that was playing nice stuff at the back end of 2018-19 and despite losing Rondon and Perez had added £65m worth of talent to it in ASM, Joelinton, Krafth and Willems on loan. Those first 7 games were embarrassing from a tactical perspective and he reverted to using a 5-4-1 after we got annihilated at Leicester which was a lot less nicer on the eye than the 3-4-3 we were using at the back end of 2018-19. That 5-4-1 was reeling from the benefits of Benitez' coaching and from October-December we were picking up results. Then injuries, rushing players back etc saw us bring in 3 loans: Bentaleb, Rose, Lazaro. Bentaleb was atrocious, Rose meh and Lazaro the best of the trio who also got played the least. We limp past two League One teams via replays in the FA Cup before West Brom away which for the first 50 minutes was probably the best we played under Bruce pre COVID. He then intervened with his wank substitutions, conceded twice late on and end up hanging on at the end before having a fucking giggle about it, "this job should come with a health warning", so you fat gormless globule, its your shite game management that sees us hanging on you fucking clueless bastard. The last game pre COVID was the win away at Southampton which practically saw us safe. Post lockdown we were a total shambles, two wins against Sheffield United and Bournemouth aside the rest of that season and the whole of 2020-21 was the most miserable I've been as a Newcastle fan since the second half of 2013-14. Bruce consistently patronised the fans, talked down, embarrassed the club and got away with it due to the lack of crowds. ASM and Willock saved him post March. Mate I know - I completely agree with you on your comments here. Simple analysis of our performances and his decisions should tell the ordinary fan what they need to know. I was just saying if we go by the table it’s not hard to see why some people might defend him. We comfortably stayed up despite having a squad that was very poor when the star players were injured. It doesn’t change the fact he’s a dinosaur and as I said he’s now been shown up over time, just like how Pardew has. We have quite a lot to thank WBA for actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: "You can't change things overnight" or whatever Bruce's famous quote was. This can be a massive subjective argument among managers and fans to be honest. One minute it can be "you can't change things overnight" by managers to fans offering an insight into certain managers being escape artists or promotion experts or Jonah's in the football world and so on. Look at Sam Allardyce. People argue as to how good or bad he was or is. I'd say most if not all managers would come into a club with some kind of saying like " I'm not a miracle worker" or "you can't simply change things overnight" or a variation of other like comments and if it goes tits up they can say " well, I think if I had more time" or " I wasn't able to get in the players to effect change" and so on. But if they start off well they can be deemed a saviour as long as they don't come with any baggage that offers them a dodgy start in fan's eyes. So many arguments as to what and how. 29 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: So they basically changed nowt early on into Bruce's reign as, by his own admission, it wasn't possible to do so. Then a year and a half later.... Still spouting the same old shite about tactics taking forever to implement. Bruce had to try and implement his own ways onto the squad from How Rafa had set up. He tried to change it and it didn't work so reverted back to how it was but then slowly changed things again and got a mixed bag I thought. Of course he still spouted some shite. I used to roll my eyes many a time with his excuses. But I still enjoyed the football under him more than I did under Rafa. And that's not saying too much as Bruce offered some turgid football at times, just not as much as Rafa did. Edited April 13, 2023 by magvicar spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I particularly enjoyed the football of last season, leading up to the takeover. It was electric... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, El Hozzo said: Can't 'this person' have his own thread (which can then be avoided) it can be titled 'Cunt' Bang out of order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Agreed. It would be impossible to tell it from the Pardew thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 I think that's offensive to the planning and preparation Rafa put into every match, Bruce just sent 11 out and let the Steve's shout at them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Happy birthday, you beautiful man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/p/Cr1Pw2Us3wn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Even Rafa’s new pup is in toon colours. Man loves us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) Happy birthday to the man that started it all (takeover) Well, massively belated. Ah well. Edited May 5, 2023 by Dokko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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