Twinport53 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Crumpy, you have a very professional website. Was it a GCSE media project? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/02/05/david-moyes-unlikely-remain-west-ham-beyond-end-season-even/ Rafa mentioned with West Ham again, with Moyes set to leave this summer. Ergh. Leaving one shithouse owner to go to a club with two? I'd be surprised. They'll back him with money though, and he feels he owes them after agreeing to takeover there and then asking if it was OK to take the Real Madrid job instead. They apparently to their credit said of course, the Real Madrid job is something Rafa couldn't turn down and they didn't stand in his way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Rafa is not working miracles man, if anything his performance this season has been underwhelming, our team isn't THAT much worse than most in the bottom half yet we should all be really grateful we're deeply embroiled in a relegation battle while the bulk of the money he spent in the summer is sat on the bench because they aren't good enough or he doesn't trust them. I want the bloke to succeed here but regardless of not being fully backed he should still be doing a bit better IMO, particularly in how we approach games at home and when we're 1-0 ahead. Would be happy for him to prove me wrong and would happily take the pelters that come with this but I don't have the faith he has it in him to keep us up or that having a capable goalscorer in Slimani will make a big enough difference to outweigh the negative tactics he uses in most games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Rafa's tactics are bad because he doesn't attack more basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 It’s almost as if he’s not one of the best managers in the world working with a bunch of random championship players. I don’t see how he should be doing better. No respectable GK, no decent striker, no #10, maybe one acceptable PL midfielder. Paul Dummett is our best LB. I’d love to know where this team would be expected to finish under another manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Rafa is not working miracles man, if anything his performance this season has been underwhelming, our team isn't THAT much worse than most in the bottom half yet we should all be really grateful we're deeply embroiled in a relegation battle while the bulk of the money he spent in the summer is sat on the bench because they aren't good enough or he doesn't trust them. I want the bloke to succeed here but regardless of not being fully backed he should still be doing a bit better IMO, particularly in how we approach games at home and when we're 1-0 ahead. Would be happy for him to prove me wrong and would happily take the pelters that come with this but I don't have the faith he has it in him to keep us up or that having a capable goalscorer in Slimani will make a big enough difference to outweigh the negative tactics he uses in most games. This is Mike Ashley's thought pattern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 The bulk of our money is still in the bank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Thought experiment; Rafa with the 11-12 squad, where would we have ended up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Thought experiment; Rafa with the 11-12 squad, where would we have ended up? 3rd-6th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Thought experiment; Rafa with the 11-12 squad, where would we have ended up? Probably the same, maybe even a place or two lower. We'd have also been top 8-10 the following season though rather than fighting relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Thought experiment; Rafa with the 11-12 squad, where would we have ended up? Probably the same, maybe even a place or two lower. We'd have also been top 8-10 the following season though rather than fighting relegation. Agreed. I'm convinced that that 2012/13 season convinced Ashley that Europe was a bad thing. Pardew always used the EL as an excuse for embarrassing performances in the Premier League which Ashley presumably bought, despite the joke summer window we had. Bringing in only Anita, Amalfitano and Bigirimana for an extra 12 games in the season man. Love European nights man, so hope we're back there under Rafa soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Rafa is not working miracles man, if anything his performance this season has been underwhelming, our team isn't THAT much worse than most in the bottom half yet we should all be really grateful we're deeply embroiled in a relegation battle while the bulk of the money he spent in the summer is sat on the bench because they aren't good enough or he doesn't trust them. I want the bloke to succeed here but regardless of not being fully backed he should still be doing a bit better IMO, particularly in how we approach games at home and when we're 1-0 ahead. Would be happy for him to prove me wrong and would happily take the pelters that come with this but I don't have the faith he has it in him to keep us up or that having a capable goalscorer in Slimani will make a big enough difference to outweigh the negative tactics he uses in most games. This is Mike Ashley's thought pattern. If we open up with this team we'll get destroyed every week. Hard to comprehend people can't see this properly like. We've been good enough and made enough chances to win plenty of games this season but we've been let down by our strikers and keepers so often it's incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Rafa is not working miracles man, if anything his performance this season has been underwhelming, our team isn't THAT much worse than most in the bottom half yet we should all be really grateful we're deeply embroiled in a relegation battle while the bulk of the money he spent in the summer is sat on the bench because they aren't good enough or he doesn't trust them. I want the bloke to succeed here but regardless of not being fully backed he should still be doing a bit better IMO, particularly in how we approach games at home and when we're 1-0 ahead. Would be happy for him to prove me wrong and would happily take the pelters that come with this but I don't have the faith he has it in him to keep us up or that having a capable goalscorer in Slimani will make a big enough difference to outweigh the negative tactics he uses in most games. This is Mike Ashley's thought pattern. If we open up with this team we'll get destroyed every week. Hard to comprehend people can't see this properly like. We've been good enough and made enough chances to win plenty of games this season but we've been let down by our strikers and keepers so often it's incredible. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Rafa is not working miracles man, if anything his performance this season has been underwhelming, our team isn't THAT much worse than most in the bottom half yet we should all be really grateful we're deeply embroiled in a relegation battle while the bulk of the money he spent in the summer is sat on the bench because they aren't good enough or he doesn't trust them. I want the bloke to succeed here but regardless of not being fully backed he should still be doing a bit better IMO, particularly in how we approach games at home and when we're 1-0 ahead. Would be happy for him to prove me wrong and would happily take the pelters that come with this but I don't have the faith he has it in him to keep us up or that having a capable goalscorer in Slimani will make a big enough difference to outweigh the negative tactics he uses in most games. This is Mike Ashley's thought pattern. If we open up with this team we'll get destroyed every week. Hard to comprehend people can't see this properly like. We've been good enough and made enough chances to win plenty of games this season but we've been let down by our strikers and keepers so often it's incredible. This. Someone else says it on here as well, the fact our goal difference is as good as it is shows the long game Rafa is playing this season, he's known all along how tight it was likely to be and getting dicked 4-0 every week would have killed us on numerous levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Rafa is not working miracles man, if anything his performance this season has been underwhelming, our team isn't THAT much worse than most in the bottom half yet we should all be really grateful we're deeply embroiled in a relegation battle while the bulk of the money he spent in the summer is sat on the bench because they aren't good enough or he doesn't trust them. I want the bloke to succeed here but regardless of not being fully backed he should still be doing a bit better IMO, particularly in how we approach games at home and when we're 1-0 ahead. Would be happy for him to prove me wrong and would happily take the pelters that come with this but I don't have the faith he has it in him to keep us up or that having a capable goalscorer in Slimani will make a big enough difference to outweigh the negative tactics he uses in most games. This is Mike Ashley's thought pattern. If we open up with this team we'll get destroyed every week. Hard to comprehend people can't see this properly like. We've been good enough and made enough chances to win plenty of games this season but we've been let down by our strikers and keepers so often it's incredible. That's why the complaints are generally quite vague and the ones making the argument can never walk you through how it would work. Throwing people forward would be great if they could still be in defensive shape when we inevitably get caught on the break. Then you'd have to score with the shit strikers when we pile forward as well obviously. That's the logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 We tried to open up in the Autumn and got repeatedly bummed - it was literally our worst run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Underwhelmed, man So desperate to be edgy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Today is not match day so better stop criticising Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Crumpy, you have a very professional website. Was it a GCSE media project? Its a bit dated indeed. Luckily its facebook where the action is. Although it'll be smartened up in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 It’s almost as if he’s not one of the best managers in the world working with a bunch of random championship players. I don’t see how he should be doing better. No respectable GK, no decent striker, no #10, maybe one acceptable PL midfielder. Paul Dummett is our best LB. I’d love to know where this team would be expected to finish under another manager. Gayle, Joselu and Shelvey are supposedly 3 of our better players and they are all rejects from other relegation threatened sides ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I sometimes wonder if and when he takes us down if people will be banging on about how great the relegation was under Rafa, and that we should be over the moon we got relegated on 37 points and not 33 points because of his footballing acumen. Some people are so desperate to believe our big name manager is working miracles that they can't see whats in front of their eyes, bloke can do no wrong. I love the bloke and what his arrival did to reunite the club but I don't think its out of turn to say his managerial performance has been a bit underwhelming this season, and that hes not done too well with the 45 million he spent in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I sometimes wonder if and when he takes us down if people will be banging on about how great the relegation was under Rafa, and that we should be over the moon we got relegated on 37 points and not 33 points because of his footballing acumen. Some people are so desperate to believe our big name manager is working miracles that they can't see whats in front of their eyes, bloke can do no wrong. What would you have him do differently then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I sometimes wonder if and when he takes us down if people will be banging on about how great the relegation was under Rafa, and that we should be over the moon we got relegated on 37 points and not 33 points because of his footballing acumen. Some people are so desperate to believe our big name manager is working miracles that they can't see whats in front of their eyes, bloke can do no wrong. I’d imagine people will bemoan the lack of investment, which would ultimately be the cause of our relegation. Which miss from the games against Palace, Brighton, Swansea, Burnley etc. were the fault of Rafa? If we had a credible striker in, we’d easily have 5-8 more points and be comfortably safe - we’ve dominated games and had enough chances to win them two times over, it’s not Rafa’s fault he’s been left to mow a lawn with a pair of tweezers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 We should've also won at Southampton. Had numerous chances, hit the post, had a goal wrongly disallowed against Bournemouth. Had golden opportunities against Swansea, Burnley, Everton. Should've really gotten a point at Huddersfield. Say we actually had invested in a striker that Rafa wanted who took those chances. That's 13 points we've missed out on. Blaming Rafa is f***ing daft, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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